"Kill The Mariah Thread" Petition!

My Case:

The Mariah Carey thread has disrupted our sanctuary of good music, known as the "main discussions" board, for far too long. I think its time for the community to get together to oust this demon of anti-progressive music from our sights forever. The following harms against the board and its good-natured constituents are as follows:

1. I temporarily found it amusing to realize that it was taking control of my mind
2. Its simply not funny
3. It advocates immaturity, which is already running rampant on the boards and around the world, and needs to be controlled
4. The 200 page goal must not be reached, for should it be, it will be forever known as an infamous attack on intelligence and a sad, sad victory for stupidity
5. Mariah Carey has nothing to do with Progressive Rock
   
6. Velvetclown

Proggers, stand in defense of your music! Will pop win another victory over progressive rock....

Its up to you!

Death to Mariah Carey!!!

Obviously you gentlemen have no clue as to the intent of the Mariah Carey thread. It is the anti-thread, the end of all that is progressive, the Kwizats Haderach of threads. One completely crazy Belushi meets John Candy with Sam Kinison and Phil Hartman with walking through the Animal House on the way to a Blues Brothers concert.

Uh, well, ya know.... It's a place to just pound the walls and give a finger to the music industry.

Or Velvet Clown's plan to overtake Western Civilization.

 

Something like that. So Bugger off.... Feckers! 

Edited by danbo

I say, put that plastic woman out of her misery...  

 

well, i would like to point out a few fallacies you made in your argument:


Appeal to Tradition:

1. X is older
2. Therefore, X is better/more correct

This is a common logical fallacy. The seniority of any member by no means validates that member as having more privelidges or being more in the right than any other member.

Ad Hominem

1. A personal attack made against A by B to prove A as incorrect or to invalidate A's argument

By calling me "sweetcakes", you mock my username and by doing so, attack me. Although you claim respect for me, you ridicule my position as a lesser member of the forum, in order to knock down my attempt to invalidate the mariah thread or to otherwise criticize me.

Violation of Topicality

1. Issues raised are not topical to the original question of the forum.

The question posed was, "Should the mods kill the mariah thread?" Nowhere in your post did you ever directly claim a pro or con stance on the issue, you merely stated some vague opinions regarding the topic. Therefore, your post is irrelevant to the question

Appeal to Emotion

1. Favorable emotions are associated with X
2. Therefore, X is better/more correct

This too is a commonly made fallacy. The emotions held by Velvetclown are irrelevant to the proposed issue.

Debating is sooo much fun!!!

I'm a big debater. I've always been into philosophy and the like. Of course, please don't take me seriously, honestly... I just like arguing and making trouble .... but I hear ya petey, you're a wonderful mod 

and I LOVE YOU VELVETCLOWN!!!

NOW DOWN WITH MARIAH!
I need some senior board member support here people... every great totalitarian dictator had some help from the higher ups and one time or another, right?!

^ Pure sophistry -- you can't announce the "rules" after the debate has been joined. I reject your "laws" of "logic."

Sorry, Sweetheart, but I mock everyone's name at one point or another -- go ahead, check. (You happen to have "Sweet" in your handle. An easy name to "riff" on, but it could be anything, and I'd still make fun of it: Just ask Dumbo, Sleazy, and Spotted Dick -- all gentlemen that I have the highest esteem for. (Don't ask Raw Blubber, though!)

I have not personally attacked you -- I have no reason to, & still don't.

You are putting your own spin on my position -- I did not say or imply that "older" is necessarily "better," or more priviledged (Dick would thus be Emperor) nor do I believe that to be the case.

I am just trying to support a long-term member that I am fond of -- surely I can do that?

Yes, the MC thread, especially of late, is often nortoriously pointless, but so are 90% of the polls posted here, and the "Song Game," etc, etc.

The MC thread is VC's pet project -- attack it, and (deliberately, or not) you attack the man.

That was my point -- I defend the man and his right to express himself in his inimitable way -- not his demented offspring.

Zappa would understand. (Appeal to a Higher Authority)

Edited by Peter

danbo wrote: Obviously you gentlemen have no clue as to the intent of the Mariah Carey thread. It is the anti-thread, the end of all that is progressive, the Kwizats Haderach of threads. One completely crazy Belushi meets John Candy with Sam Kinison and Phil Hartman with walking through the Animal House on the way to a Blues Brothers concert. Uh, well, ya know.... It's a place to just pound the walls and give a finger to the music industry. Or Velvet Clown's plan to overtake Western Civilization.   Something like that. So Bugger off.... Feckers!

 No problems with any of that, then Sweet F.A

Why just me?  I'm not alone here -- I have the LAW on my side....

PS, Sweet-tarts: I am not now, nor have I ever been, a "mod" or moderator. I speak for myself only. I am just a concerned citizen, like thou, and was the first "non-special" Reviewer to join up. (That's why my name is listed first in the Reviewer section, BTW.) Just wanted to make that clear to all....

Edited by Peter

Peter wrote: ^ Pure sophistry -- you can't announce the "rules" after the debate has been joined. I reject your "laws" of "logic." Sorry, Sweetheart, but I mock everyone's name at one point or another -- go ahead, check. (You happen to have "Sweet" in your handle. An easy name to "riff" on, but it could be anything, and I'd still make fun of it: Just ask Dumbo, Sleazy, and Spotted Dick -- all gentlemen that I have the highest esteem for. (Don't ask Raw Blubber, though!) I have not personally attacked you -- I have no reason to, & still don't. You are putting your own spin on my position -- I did not say or imply that "older" is necessarily "better," or more priviledged (Dick would thus be Emperor) nor do I believe that to be the case. I am just trying to support a long-term member that I am fond of -- surely I can do that? Yes, the MC thread, especially of late, is often nortoriously pointless, but so are 90% of the polls posted here, and the "Song Game," etc, etc. The MC thread is VC's pet project -- attack it, and (deliberately, or not) you attack the man. That was my point -- I defend the man and his right to express himself in his inimitable way -- not his demented offspring. Zappa would understand. (Appeal to a Higher Authority)

Posh!
You can't throw out rules of logic! That'd be committing the fallacy of Invulnerable Ignorance ! And yes, thats really the name of the fallacy, no harm mean't.  II is the claim that one need not abide by rules of logic to make a true point or not.

Also, as I so stated before, I mean no harm to VC... he's a funny guy! I especially love his "bad english" response to Prog Guruz in the "Pink Floid" thread, i was laughing myself apart! ! What I am criticizing is the sillyness of the mariah carey thread dragging on and on, when it is really a big pile of nothing. I do think its very funny, but I think it'd be cool if the funniness started to be directed in other places, too, you know, the establishment must change! The mariah thread should not be deleted of course, but more.... buried, martyred. It should be put in an archive to be forever treasured by the forum members and members to come later on. Its a genius idea, its just getting old... its like a rock star who fades away instead of burning out

Again, never did i attack VC. Why would I attack a fellow lover or prog? I merely attack the twisted institution that is the mariah thread.

VOTE YES ON ISSUE 1!!!

There's a Mariah Carey thread?

How sweet would it be to have this thread and the Mariah thread always at the top of the page, together forever...