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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 11 2012 at 17:01
Thanks for the report, consider him gone. 

Edited by harmonium.ro - May 11 2012 at 17:01
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 10 2012 at 09:22

Then again, I think you are right. And I would like this not to be happening too, but again we have to face the eternal struggle between rules/guidelines and right to more or less free speech.

It's not right, yeah, but how do we prove it ?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 09 2012 at 11:21
Not linked to the recent manipulations going on, but there's a guy here who's rated 58 tech/extreme albums in total, and is averaging a rating of 1.00 Just a bit silly. The problem is where albums only have a couple of ratings, it does distort the picture for others looking for feedback on potential purchases.
Of course, this poor person may be determinely trawling through every extreme prog metal album they can get their hands on in a desperate attempt to find one they like? Then again...
May be worth a pm from admin?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 21 2012 at 15:06
Originally posted by sagichim sagichim wrote:

It's me trying to knock it down.

I'm shocked!Shocked

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 21 2012 at 14:59
It's me trying to knock it down.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 21 2012 at 12:49
Originally posted by sagichim sagichim wrote:

Damn!! Head on wall

Is that you praying at the Western wall?


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 21 2012 at 12:43
Damn!! Head on wall
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 21 2012 at 10:27
Originally posted by Easy Livin Easy Livin wrote:

Originally posted by sagichim sagichim wrote:

Originally posted by sagichim sagichim wrote:

No problem at all...

http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=37464
Admins, are you doing anything regarding this person and his ratings? just wanted to know.
 
Thought you'd already decided that we're doing nothing.Confused
 
Originally posted by sagichim sagichim wrote:

We have all reported some rating fraud before, and i never saw an admin saying he's going to do something about it.

@Sagichim

As has already been mentioned several times, at the moment Admin are powerless to do anything. Until they get a fix it will remain that way.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 21 2012 at 10:17
Originally posted by sagichim sagichim wrote:

Originally posted by sagichim sagichim wrote:

No problem at all...

http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=37464
Admins, are you doing anything regarding this person and his ratings? just wanted to know.
 
Thought you'd already decided that we're doing nothing.Confused
 
Originally posted by sagichim sagichim wrote:

We have all reported some rating fraud before, and i never saw an admin saying he's going to do something about it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 21 2012 at 07:50
I PM'd a few of his alters and not one response. i guess its just a robot. How boring.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 21 2012 at 06:34
Originally posted by sagichim

No problem at all...

http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=37464



Hello,

I have counted 1665 "1stars.gif"on this page !
(and 0 review)

These ratings are not credible at all. When someone doesn't appreciate a progressive band, he doesn't listen to the 30 LPs of the band !
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 11 2012 at 21:57
Originally posted by sagichim sagichim wrote:

No problem at all...

http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=37464
Admins, are you doing anything regarding this person and his ratings? just wanted to know.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 08 2012 at 14:15
I opened this thread because of that brazilian guy but now I know he was already been reported on the report thread so admins if you like you can close this thread and redirect all complaints over there, it should be easier to handle...

http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=28343&PN=180
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 08 2012 at 12:47
That list does look fishy, but it could be that he has a sibling, roommate, or friend with many of those albums, so that's why he heard lots of them.  I heard all of Rush's albums due to a friend who I shared a house with for six months -- and boy did I get really, really sick of them. It can be pretty difficult to avoid music in such cases.  And he offered me plenty of cash to trash my Bauhaus CD; instead, I yan and yang lumber punched him (go taste a tart and then eat my lunch).

I agree with a lot of his not Residents ratings, but damn, he should be shot (joking of course with the term) for these:

1 starsJEAN-CLAUDE VANNIER L'enfant assassin des mouches(rating only)
1 starsVANGELIS The Dragon(rating only)
1 starsVANGELIS Hypothesis(rating only) (amongst others)
1 starsTORTOISE Millions Now Living Will Never Die (rating only)
1 starsPIERROT LUNAIRE Pierrot Lunaire(rating only)
1 starsNEU! Neu! 2(rating only)
1 starsMAGMA Mëkanïk Kömmandöh(rating only)
1 starsKULTIVATOR Barndomens Stigar(rating only)
1 starsBJORN J:SON LINDH Cous Cous(rating only)
1 starsBJORN J:SON LINDH Från Storstad Till Grodspad(rating only)
1 starsBJORN J:SON LINDH Ramadan(rating only)
1 starsBJORN J:SON LINDH Sissel(rating only)
1 starsIL BERLIONE Il Berlione(rating only)
1 starsEMMANUEL BOOZ Le Jour où les Vaches... (rating only)
1 starsDAVID AXELROD Earth Rot(rating only)
1 starsJEAN-PIERRE ALARCEN Jean-Pierre Alarcen(rating only)
1 starsJEAN-PIERRE ALARCEN Tableau No. 2(rating only)


I don't buy that he's listened to  a lot of the ones he has rated, maybe briefly sampled them, and others he probably has never properly listened to.  And with Le Orme I noted that he rated lots with ones, but the ones he rated higher I agree with, and I would rate the same (best is Contrappunti for me as well as him).

His ratings of a particular bands' albums commonly do vary,.  And it did seem to me like he may going after a lot of little rated ones to bring sown the average.  Is he trying to manipulate lists? I don't know.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 08 2012 at 11:44
Yeah what's the deal with bashing those albums, i'm sure he didn't listen to most of it. I mean if you dislike the Residents so much why do you keep listening to their whole discography, this is so obvious.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 08 2012 at 10:48
At least he likes UZ

But yeah, that looks pretty manipulative to me.  People don't understand that finding something not to your tastes doesn't mean it's sh*t.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 08 2012 at 09:39
No problem at all...

http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=37464
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 08 2012 at 08:05
Scratch the 'if you would like' next time, simply post the link and save us all some time (or send a PM to an admin with the link if you don't feel like putting it on the public forums). Awaiting the link now...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 05 2012 at 12:40
I hope this is the place to report this. Yesterday while writing my review i checked other ratings too for that album.
The album rating was very high, and out of 9 reviewers, 6 gave the album 4 or 5 stars but one reviewer gave it 1 star which seemed pretty weird. I entered the person's review list and found out he has 2480 ratings without a single review! or forum posts, and it seems about 70% is a one star rating, and for entire discographys too. For example the entire Residents discography that includes about 60 albums got one star rating.
This looks very weird and is suspicious, worth checking out IMO.
 
If you would like i can post a link to his rating page.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 05 2012 at 12:19
Originally posted by Blackbeard Blackbeard wrote:

I have another idea for admins. I think he is a little bit kiddy, and likes to destroy and see the results. Maybe we can slow down his possiblities. A newly registererd user should only rate one album a day for a certain time. Or every user must be doing at least one review before he can rate (other) albums. Hopefully he gets bored by slow progression of his work of destruction.


It's not up to admins, it's a technical issue and up to a webmaster.

I don't think this idea of "at least one review" will be implemented ever - ratings without reviews are primarily here because of non-English-speaking people.

As for the "one rating a day" at the beginning, for what is worth, I like the idea, but I don't think the site owner do.Smile
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