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@refugee: Yes, he is 50+

@Snow Dog: He has an academic degree, but he does not teach at a university.

The saint who died in Echternach on Nov. 7 came from the same region as this person.

No.

28 before him were sovereign rulers.

He is neither a nobleman by birth, nor created a nobleman by the Her Majesty the Queen. Nevertheless, he may be called a nobleman.

Two pointing upwards, two to lhe left, two downwards, two to the right.

Edited by someone_else - March 15 2012 at 11:40

Yes.

The thirtieth before him founded and gave his name to the city.

No, the city is not situated in Northumberland. The person you are looking for is indeed of Northumbrian origin.

The city is situated on an island which is not Great Britain.

Edited by someone_else - March 16 2012 at 05:35

Well done at last. It is indeed Fra' Matthew Festing.

Here are the explanations to the hints:

Hint #1: Fra' Matthew Festing is the 79th Grand Master.

Hint #2: The Prince and Grand Master of the Sovereign Order of Malta is considered a sovereign monarch.

Hint #3: Rick Sanctorum, candidate for Republican US presidency nomination is a Knight of Magistral Grace of the Order of Malta. Queen Beatrix of the Netherlands is a Dame Grand Cross of Honour and Devotion of this order.

Hint #4: The Great Giveaway: Bertie was not Edward VII, who died almost 40 years before Matthew Festing was born, but his predecessor, Fra' Andrew Bertie, whose name was given literally in this hint.

Hint #5: One of his brothers, Andrew Festing, is a portrait painter.

Hint #6: He is the youngest of four brothers, and the only one who may call himself a prince.

Hint #7: Willibrord of Utrecht, who died in Echternach on Nov. 7, 739 AD, came from Northumberland.

Hint #8: From 1530 to 1798, Malta was ruled by the Grand Masters, from Philippe de Villiers (#44) to Ferdinand von Hompesch (#71).

Hint #9: Refers to the Maltese Cross.

Hint #10: Jean de la Vallette, 49th Grand Master, founded and gave his name to Valletta.

Hint #11: Refers to the situation of Valletta on Malta.

Edited by someone_else - March 16 2012 at 06:06

The history of the Knights Hospitaller is closely connected with the Greek island Rhodes where I live. One of the greatest attractions here is the old town, built by the knights in medieval times, with its massive fortifications, inns for each group ("langue") of knights, palaces (the biggest one is the Grand Master’s Palace – it was destroyed by an ammunition explosion in 1856 and rebuilt in a pseudo-medieval style by the Italians) and narrow cobblestone streets. I walked through the old town today, and it’s really beautiful.

After Suleiman the Magnificent defeated the knights in 1522, the order moved to Malta where they have been since. Suleiman rode in through the gate of St. Athanasius, only a five minutes walk from my house. This fact sometimes gives me a strange feeling when I enter the old town (it certainly did today). Suleiman ordered it to be walled up and shut forever, but the Italians reopened it and invited the Grand Master to be the first one to enter through it again.

Sources:
Rhodes 1306–1522 a Story by Vangelis Pavlidis
Wikipedia
Myself

Here’s my new one: Female, alive.

He say nothing is quite what it seems;
I say nothing is nothing
(Peter Hammill)

Yes, she is.

He say nothing is quite what it seems;
I say nothing is nothing
(Peter Hammill)

Yes.

He say nothing is quite what it seems;
I say nothing is nothing
(Peter Hammill)

No.

He say nothing is quite what it seems;
I say nothing is nothing
(Peter Hammill)

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Snow Dog Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 23 2005 Location: Caerdydd Status: Offline Points: 32995	Posted: March 15 2012 at 10:05
	Academic?


someone_else Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member VIP Member Joined: May 02 2008 Location: Going Bananas Status: Offline Points: 24641	Posted: March 15 2012 at 10:31
	@refugee: Yes, he is 50+ @Snow Dog: He has an academic degree, but he does not teach at a university. The saint who died in Echternach on Nov. 7 came from the same region as this person.


Snow Dog Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 23 2005 Location: Caerdydd Status: Offline Points: 32995	Posted: March 15 2012 at 10:50
	Does he appear on TV? (fairly regularly)


someone_else Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member VIP Member Joined: May 02 2008 Location: Going Bananas Status: Offline Points: 24641	Posted: March 15 2012 at 11:00
	No. 28 before him were sovereign rulers.


refugee Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member VIP Member Joined: November 20 2006 Location: Greece Status: Offline Points: 7026	Posted: March 15 2012 at 11:34
	Is he a nobleman?
	He say nothing is quite what it seems; I say nothing is nothing (Peter Hammill)

someone_else Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member VIP Member Joined: May 02 2008 Location: Going Bananas Status: Offline Points: 24641	Posted: March 15 2012 at 11:40
	He is neither a nobleman by birth, nor created a nobleman by the Her Majesty the Queen. Nevertheless, he may be called a nobleman. Two pointing upwards, two to lhe left, two downwards, two to the right. Edited by someone_else - March 15 2012 at 11:40


refugee Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member VIP Member Joined: November 20 2006 Location: Greece Status: Offline Points: 7026	Posted: March 15 2012 at 12:13
	Is he a clergyman?
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someone_else Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member VIP Member Joined: May 02 2008 Location: Going Bananas Status: Offline Points: 24641	Posted: March 15 2012 at 14:49
	Yes. The thirtieth before him founded and gave his name to the city.


refugee Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member VIP Member Joined: November 20 2006 Location: Greece Status: Offline Points: 7026	Posted: March 16 2012 at 05:07
	Is the city you mentioned in Northumberland?
	He say nothing is quite what it seems; I say nothing is nothing (Peter Hammill)

someone_else Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member VIP Member Joined: May 02 2008 Location: Going Bananas Status: Offline Points: 24641	Posted: March 16 2012 at 05:12
	No, the city is not situated in Northumberland. The person you are looking for is indeed of Northumbrian origin. The city is situated on an island which is not Great Britain. Edited by someone_else - March 16 2012 at 05:35


refugee Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member VIP Member Joined: November 20 2006 Location: Greece Status: Offline Points: 7026	Posted: March 16 2012 at 05:40
	I’m pretty sure I’ve found him. Matthew Festing, the 79th Grand Master of the Sovereign Military Order of Malta.
	He say nothing is quite what it seems; I say nothing is nothing (Peter Hammill)

someone_else Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member VIP Member Joined: May 02 2008 Location: Going Bananas Status: Offline Points: 24641	Posted: March 16 2012 at 06:04
	Well done at last. It is indeed Fra' Matthew Festing. Here are the explanations to the hints: Hint #1: Fra' Matthew Festing is the 79th Grand Master. Hint #2: The Prince and Grand Master of the Sovereign Order of Malta is considered a sovereign monarch. Hint #3: Rick Sanctorum, candidate for Republican US presidency nomination is a Knight of Magistral Grace of the Order of Malta. Queen Beatrix of the Netherlands is a Dame Grand Cross of Honour and Devotion of this order. Hint #4: The Great Giveaway: Bertie was not Edward VII, who died almost 40 years before Matthew Festing was born, but his predecessor, Fra' Andrew Bertie, whose name was given literally in this hint. Hint #5: One of his brothers, Andrew Festing, is a portrait painter. Hint #6: He is the youngest of four brothers, and the only one who may call himself a prince. Hint #7: Willibrord of Utrecht, who died in Echternach on Nov. 7, 739 AD, came from Northumberland. Hint #8: From 1530 to 1798, Malta was ruled by the Grand Masters, from Philippe de Villiers (#44) to Ferdinand von Hompesch (#71). Hint #9: Refers to the Maltese Cross. Hint #10: Jean de la Vallette, 49th Grand Master, founded and gave his name to Valletta. Hint #11: Refers to the situation of Valletta on Malta. Edited by someone_else - March 16 2012 at 06:06


refugee Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member VIP Member Joined: November 20 2006 Location: Greece Status: Offline Points: 7026	Posted: March 16 2012 at 06:09
	Hint #7 was the one that made me look for a place in Northumberland … I’ll be back later with a few more comments (the knights used to live on this island until they had to abandon it in 1523) and a new person.
	He say nothing is quite what it seems; I say nothing is nothing (Peter Hammill)

refugee Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member VIP Member Joined: November 20 2006 Location: Greece Status: Offline Points: 7026	Posted: March 16 2012 at 10:39
	The history of the Knights Hospitaller is closely connected with the Greek island Rhodes where I live. One of the greatest attractions here is the old town, built by the knights in medieval times, with its massive fortifications, inns for each group ("langue") of knights, palaces (the biggest one is the Grand Master’s Palace – it was destroyed by an ammunition explosion in 1856 and rebuilt in a pseudo-medieval style by the Italians) and narrow cobblestone streets. I walked through the old town today, and it’s really beautiful. After Suleiman the Magnificent defeated the knights in 1522, the order moved to Malta where they have been since. Suleiman rode in through the gate of St. Athanasius, only a five minutes walk from my house. This fact sometimes gives me a strange feeling when I enter the old town (it certainly did today). Suleiman ordered it to be walled up and shut forever, but the Italians reopened it and invited the Grand Master to be the first one to enter through it again. Sources: Rhodes 1306–1522 a Story by Vangelis Pavlidis Wikipedia Myself Here’s my new one: Female, alive.
	He say nothing is quite what it seems; I say nothing is nothing (Peter Hammill)

someone_else Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member VIP Member Joined: May 02 2008 Location: Going Bananas Status: Offline Points: 24641	Posted: March 16 2012 at 15:39
	Interesting story. There were also "inns" for each group of knights (divided into countries: France, Aragón etc.) in the Three Cities near Valletta, of which Il-Birgu (the most beautiful of these) has the most. I spent my spring holidays on Malta 10 years ago. Back to the next person: Is she 50 or older?


refugee Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member VIP Member Joined: November 20 2006 Location: Greece Status: Offline Points: 7026	Posted: March 16 2012 at 16:01
	Yes, she is.
	He say nothing is quite what it seems; I say nothing is nothing (Peter Hammill)

someone_else Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member VIP Member Joined: May 02 2008 Location: Going Bananas Status: Offline Points: 24641	Posted: March 16 2012 at 16:08
	Is she younger than 70?


refugee Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member VIP Member Joined: November 20 2006 Location: Greece Status: Offline Points: 7026	Posted: March 17 2012 at 05:01
	Yes.
	He say nothing is quite what it seems; I say nothing is nothing (Peter Hammill)

someone_else Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member VIP Member Joined: May 02 2008 Location: Going Bananas Status: Offline Points: 24641	Posted: March 17 2012 at 07:12
	Is she an artist?


refugee Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member VIP Member Joined: November 20 2006 Location: Greece Status: Offline Points: 7026	Posted: March 17 2012 at 11:48
	No.
	He say nothing is quite what it seems; I say nothing is nothing (Peter Hammill)