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Triceratopsoil 
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We all already knew how you felt about Anglagard :P As for Harmonium, as I think about it, the only track I ever listen to on that album anymore is Dixie so I don't care :P /evenmoreofftopic
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JJLehto
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Posted: March 04 2012 at 17:58 |
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Don't make me of all people ask to go back on topic.
I'll even use the smiley I hate oh so much Though I will admit, I wanted to punch you Rob when I saw one of your comments about KC and especially "composition > improvisation" I was so mad bro Edited by JJLehto - March 04 2012 at 17:58 |
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Triceratopsoil
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Posted: March 04 2012 at 17:59 |
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Actually, talking about Rob's reviews is more on-topic than talking about altering the system, IMO
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colorofmoney91
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Posted: March 04 2012 at 17:59 |
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On your first point, I totally agree with you. Objectively bad albums to deserve negative reviews, but 300 words gives a longer description minimum to more appropriately and accurately explain why the album is bad rather than 100 words of "this album is bad, so don't buy it" with no details. Someone might be dissuaded from purchasing an album because of a negative yet uninformative review when in reality the reader might very well think the reviewer's negative points sound like a good reason to buy the album! Either good album or bad album, each album deserves a good informative review that serves the reader well. On your second point, non-collab/PR reviews wouldn't be displayed in the featured column anyway, so your point makes no sense in regard to my proposition. EDIT: my last statement sounded blunt and rude, sorry
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JJLehto
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Posted: March 04 2012 at 18:05 |
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That IS a good point, a longer review even for a bad album is better than short. I can personally say I've bought albums (or games, movies anything) despite negative reviews because they are so uninformative about why it is bad.
"Love beach sucks" OK got it. But take some pride in reviewing. We all know Love Beach sucks but I would be much more impressed with a review going into the music and why they so say, and that'd be deserving of some more attention. |
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Man With Hat
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Posted: March 04 2012 at 18:40 |
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I just want to throw in my support for Alan's idea.
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I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
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colorofmoney91
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Posted: March 04 2012 at 18:52 |
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Thanks Mr. Hat
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Epignosis
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Posted: March 04 2012 at 19:03 |
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You're only mad because it's true. |
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NotAProghead
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Posted: March 04 2012 at 19:05 |
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For God's sake leave 100 words limit. Any woman can tell you longer does not always mean better.
Even more, bad long review is worse than short bad review.
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Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour)
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Triceratopsoil
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Posted: March 04 2012 at 19:12 |
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Do expand on this thought.
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colorofmoney91
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Posted: March 04 2012 at 19:13 |
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But what's the point in featuring short, bad reviews that had little to no effort put into them over long, bad reviews that had been composed with actual effort? I'm not saying to change the overall minimum limit of 100 characters to be published in any case. 100 character minimum is good for length for a short review, whether it's good or bad, but would regardless of quality be filtered to the side column. But lengthy and substantial reviews of 300 or more characters would be more appropriate for the "Expert Reviews" column. This way, readers only get the best reviews at first glance. and your comment, "Even more, bad long review is worse than short bad review": a bad review is an opinion. What you think is a long bad review I might think of as a long good review. Either way, the longer the review, the more effort that is put in by default in an attempt to describe the album.
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colorofmoney91
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Posted: March 04 2012 at 19:31 |
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I actually agree, composition > improvisation.
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DisgruntledPorcupine
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Posted: March 04 2012 at 19:50 |
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Haha, that sucks. I've kinda been the same sorta reviewer since I started so I wouldn't have to rewrite much.
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colorofmoney91
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Posted: March 04 2012 at 19:53 |
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That's good, your reviews are very high quality
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DisgruntledPorcupine
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Posted: March 04 2012 at 19:56 |
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Thanks.  I like yours too.
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colorofmoney91
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Posted: March 04 2012 at 20:01 |
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NotAProghead
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Posted: March 04 2012 at 20:06 |
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Who cares about efforts? Some people can do it effortlessly, some not. In the end only result counts. |
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Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour)
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colorofmoney91
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I'm honestly not sure how to combat your statement. I guess: People who consistently write lengthy bad reviews wouldn't have been promoted in the first place, so I don't think there would be a problem with bad reviews in the featured reviews section under my proposed solution. People who continue to write objectively bad reviews will only continue to have reviews listed only in the side column.
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NotAProghead
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Posted: March 04 2012 at 20:31 |
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Your solution requires monitoring reviews, that's the problem. Software is not intellectual enough to "see the line between good and bad".
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Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour)
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Check this page: All are short reviews, as a fact all the Collaborators gave 1 star (except Bob who gave 2 stars). There's nothing more to say about this aberration (As a fact, most of us talk about our listening experience or how we got the album), but each and every one are explicit enough to warn naive fans of ELP to fall in the trap. Iván |
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