Abortion: Legal or Illegal - Progressive Rock Music Forum

A little bit funny, but not as funny as Tuzvihar's LOTR sig about the horn of Gondor.

You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all.

That post is still in the middle of page 40. (Shrug Icon)

Now I remember...I went and read more and found that article.

Edited by Negoba - March 01 2012 at 15:11

You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all.

I never saw Negoba post that.

"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "

Well, you can always crank the standard back in the other direction: male masturbation. I confess to being a mass murderer.

The T wrote:

I think we should promote 8-month abortion, after birth of course.

How about Placenta Helper?

Edited by Slartibartfast - March 01 2012 at 14:55

Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...

I think we should promote 8-month abortion, after birth of course.

Solid point. I guess the Bible is filled with plenty of examples of that.

"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "

Gamemako wrote:

You know, I think pro-lifers should just give up. Inevitably, pro-choice people will kill themselves off, and then pro-lifers can proudly tout their moral superiority as the chosen ones of God.

I laughed until you infuriated me at the end. Pro-life does not imply belief in God.

Edited by Equality 7-2521 - February 29 2012 at 17:29

"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "

Slartibartfast wrote:

If you think supporting reproductive rights is the same thing as murder then it is a shoe that fits and you chose to wear it.

Reciting a slogan isn't an argument.

I've said this many times and you seem to ignore the reality.

There are TWO sets of rights that must be weighed. You simply pretend one of those doesn't exist and give absolutely no justification for that fact.

A woman's right to autonomy is enormously important.

A child's right not to be killed is also enormously important.

If you don't address both, you're living in a fantasy of, yes, convenience.

I'm not insulting women with this. In the heat of extreme stress, people make choices based on the norms of their culture.

We are not at that point here. We are discussing what norms our culture should have or not have.

If you notice I said specifically that a woman's right to personal autonomy IS a crucial factor in this discussion. But it's not the only factor.

You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all.

Gamemako wrote:

You know, I think pro-lifers should just give up. Inevitably, pro-choice people will kill themselves off, and then pro-lifers can proudly tout their moral superiority as the chosen ones of God.

It's actually more of a quantity vs.quality thing. Anti abortionists will inevitably have more children, but they won't necessarily be smarter. Choicers aren't anti children.

Negoba wrote:

You speak as if I'm stupid.

You have repeatedly said that "Sometimes it really really sucks to be pregnant." Well yeah. Sometimes it really sucks to have children too. For some women, dealing with a colicky infant is much more taxing than being pregnant. But we don't give those mother the options of ending the little life.

You have yet to give any reason other than "But it's really really hard to be pregnant sometimes."

If you think supporting reproductive rights is the same thing as murder then it is a shoe that fits and you chose to wear it.

Edited by Slartibartfast - February 29 2012 at 15:46

Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...

You know, I think pro-lifers should just give up. Inevitably, pro-choice people will kill themselves off, and then pro-lifers can proudly tout their moral superiority as the chosen ones of God.

Hail Eris!

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