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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dean Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2012 at 18:45
Originally posted by AtomicCrimsonRush AtomicCrimsonRush wrote:


Originally posted by The Miracle The Miracle wrote:

He sure is a weird case. The explanations that spring to mind are that he is either playing a joke or using an online translator. The former is unlikely because they're really not that funny, and the joke has long since gotten old. The latter is unlikely because given the translation, it's hard to imagine that having been a legitimate review in any language. So I'm really at loss as to who, or what, this person is and what his/her point is. Maybe the reviews are some alien lifeform's awkward first attempts at contact with mankind...


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I read the review out to my wife who knows nothing about Prog, and she said it sounds like his words are being interpreted by someone and he is from a non english speaking country.....she might be onto something there...

In any case I am at a loss. He is yet to review an album he likes as a masterpiece and thats weird. Who comes here and reviews all the albums they hate? There's no joy in that.
He's an attention seeker and we are feeding him.
 
He is posting from Maine, USA (mostly from the northern region of that state near the Canadian border ). He normally posts between the hours of 10 in the morning and 2 in the afternoon and most of his posts are on a Thursday (with the exception of those posted over the Xmas holidays, which were posted over a single weekend from in or near Portland southern Maine). To me that is suggestive of a student (possibly at the University of Maine, Fort Kent) with a free period on Thursdays.
 
There are gaps of less than 10 minutes between reviews that are posted on the same day which indicates he either writes them in advance or writes them quickly. The sentence syntax is not indicative of a transliterated, translated or transcribed foreign language, nor is the vocabulary used - I believe the only practical explanation is that they are constructs made to look foreign. They are not in the slightest bit funny, but I suspect he finds our reaction to them as being hugely amusing, and that, I suggest, is their sole purpose.
 
Can we ignore this guy now?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote dreadpirateroberts Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2012 at 18:51
So not worth deleteing the account because another one will simply be made and he/she will start again?
 
If so, I'll stop caring - I don't have to read them, and if they aren't in breech of ay rules then ignoring might be best
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Atavachron Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2012 at 19:47
love the detective work, Dean  Thumbs Up

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Finnforest Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2012 at 20:30
That is impressive sleuthing Dean!

Ash, I'm with you...I would nuke the guy instantly along with a bunch of other reviewers who post nonsense more for a reaction than to benefit readers.  These kinds of reviews reflect poorly on the site as a resource, even if they are amusing.  I would offer to be quality control if they'd hand me the nukes, but that'll never happenLOL
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Triceratopsoil Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2012 at 23:39
I think he's trying to express through his incoherence, perhaps, something he can't quite put in words about his feelings towards the music.

Just kidding, he's bonkers
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AtomicCrimsonRush Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 02 2012 at 08:51

Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

I think he's trying to express through his incoherence, perhaps, something he can't quite put in words about his feelings towards the music.

Just kidding, he's bonkers

LOL
For a moment I thought you were on his side....
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Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

That is impressive sleuthing Dean!

Ash, I'm with you...I would nuke the guy instantly along with a bunch of other reviewers who post nonsense more for a reaction than to benefit readers.  These kinds of reviews reflect poorly on the site as a resource, even if they are amusing.  I would offer to be quality control if they'd hand me the nukes, but that'll never happenLOL


Yeah, with you there, Jim. It's no good all round. And I too, wouldn't trust myself with such power!
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I was recently discussing with a moderator about the possibility of me becoming a Prog Reviewer, but I'm unable to without rewriting 200+ of my old, short, bad reviews that I started out with, which is an insane proposition honestly, but it's entirely my own fault for being such a crap reviewer. 

But the discussion also pointed out that some collaborators and PRs also have short, uninformative reviews that aren't really worth putting in the featured "Collaborators/Experts Reviews" column and only serve the purpose of putting collaborators higher on the most prolific reviewers list. 

I was thinking that since reviews are not published unless they meet the minimum requirement of 100 characters, perhaps a change could be made to not place collaborator/prog reviewer reviews in the featured columns unless they meet a minimum character requirement of, I dunno, maybe 300. All reviews, collab or not, would be published in the side column instead of the featured spot. 

This would give people who started out writing bad reviews but were able to grow in composition style, like myself, to be able to earn our deserved promoted positions without going through the ridiculous process of rewriting or deleting large amounts of review work. 

Still, non-collab and non-PR reviews would stay in the side column unless the user is promoted. The above rule is only designed for users under collab or PR status. Based on the limited knowledge of computer programming that I have, it seems like it would be an easily implemented argument.

What do you think?


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My description is convoluted so I thought I'd chart what I mean.


All non-collab/PR reviews = side column

Collab/PR reviews & not 300 characters = side column

Collab/PR reviews &  300 characters = "Collaborators/Expert Reviews" column


EDIT: I am NOT suggesting that reviews are deleted.


Edited by colorofmoney91 - March 04 2012 at 20:27
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Triceratopsoil Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 04 2012 at 15:22
I think that sounds incredibly reasonable.  They should also not be weighted fully (20x or whatever it is) unless they are that length, IMO.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote The Truth Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 04 2012 at 15:29
I would agree with this too, most of my early reviews are vomit.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote colorofmoney91 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 04 2012 at 15:33
This systems analysis and design class is paying off in the smallest way possible.
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Originally posted by colorofmoney91 colorofmoney91 wrote:



I was thinking that since reviews are not published unless they meet the minimum requirement of 100 characters, perhaps a change could be made to not place collaborator/prog reviewer reviews in the featured columns unless they meet a minimum character requirement of, I dunno, maybe 300. All reviews, collab or not, would be published in the side column instead of the featured spot.
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My description is convoluted so I thought I'd chart what I mean.


All non-collab/PR reviews = side column

Collab/PR reviews & not 300 characters = side column

Collab/PR reviews &  300 characters = "Collaborators/Expert Reviews" column


The problem with this suggestion is that many reviews of singles or EPs simply don't need 300+ words.  So that would be an issue.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote octopus-4 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 04 2012 at 15:37
I think also some of my recent reviews are vomit...it may depend on what I had for breakfast, but I don't think a word count is the best metric.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote colorofmoney91 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 04 2012 at 15:40
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by colorofmoney91 colorofmoney91 wrote:



I was thinking that since reviews are not published unless they meet the minimum requirement of 100 characters, perhaps a change could be made to not place collaborator/prog reviewer reviews in the featured columns unless they meet a minimum character requirement of, I dunno, maybe 300. All reviews, collab or not, would be published in the side column instead of the featured spot.
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My description is convoluted so I thought I'd chart what I mean.


All non-collab/PR reviews = side column

Collab/PR reviews & not 300 characters = side column

Collab/PR reviews &  300 characters = "Collaborators/Expert Reviews" column


The problem with this suggestion is that many reviews of singles or EPs simply don't need 300+ words.  So that would be an issue.

Well, how many reviews does an EP or single need?

Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:

I think also some of my recent reviews are vomit...it may depend on what I had for breakfast, but I don't think a word count is the best metric.


True, but even 300 character bad reviews are typically more informative and substantial than good 100 character reviews. 


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote colorofmoney91 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 04 2012 at 15:43
Also, the character count minimum could easily be altered between discography categories.
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Originally posted by colorofmoney91 colorofmoney91 wrote:

Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by colorofmoney91 colorofmoney91 wrote:



I was thinking that since reviews are not published unless they meet the minimum requirement of 100 characters, perhaps a change could be made to not place collaborator/prog reviewer reviews in the featured columns unless they meet a minimum character requirement of, I dunno, maybe 300. All reviews, collab or not, would be published in the side column instead of the featured spot.
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My description is convoluted so I thought I'd chart what I mean.


All non-collab/PR reviews = side column

Collab/PR reviews & not 300 characters = side column

Collab/PR reviews &  300 characters = "Collaborators/Expert Reviews" column


The problem with this suggestion is that many reviews of singles or EPs simply don't need 300+ words.  So that would be an issue.

Well, how many reviews does an EP or single need?

Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:

I think also some of my recent reviews are vomit...it may depend on what I had for breakfast, but I don't think a word count is the best metric.


True, but even 300 character bad reviews are typically more informative and substantial than good 100 character reviews. 

True "my reviews are vomit" or true "a word count is not the best metric" ? LOL
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote colorofmoney91 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 04 2012 at 15:47
Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:

 

True "my reviews are vomit" or true "a word count is not the best metric" ? LOL

True to the word count argument. I personally think your reviews are a perfect length and appropriately informative Smile
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Originally posted by colorofmoney91 colorofmoney91 wrote:

Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by colorofmoney91 colorofmoney91 wrote:



I was thinking that since reviews are not published unless they meet the minimum requirement of 100 characters, perhaps a change could be made to not place collaborator/prog reviewer reviews in the featured columns unless they meet a minimum character requirement of, I dunno, maybe 300. All reviews, collab or not, would be published in the side column instead of the featured spot.
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My description is convoluted so I thought I'd chart what I mean.


All non-collab/PR reviews = side column

Collab/PR reviews & not 300 characters = side column

Collab/PR reviews &  300 characters = "Collaborators/Expert Reviews" column


The problem with this suggestion is that many reviews of singles or EPs simply don't need 300+ words.  So that would be an issue.

Well, how many reviews does an EP or single need?



I think that's a moot and strange question to pose.  How many reviews does any album "need?"

Albums' rankings in the charts have a lot to do with not just the rating, but with the number of ratings.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Guldbamsen Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 04 2012 at 15:51
I'm not sure that we should implement any sort of "classification" concerning length in regards to reviewing. A short review can be terrific, and I am quite jealous of those who can pull them off. I certainly can't..
BUT and that is a big but, I do think you deserve to be prog reviewer Alan. As I have told you, I really enjoy reading your writings.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote colorofmoney91 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 04 2012 at 15:58
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by colorofmoney91 colorofmoney91 wrote:

Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by colorofmoney91 colorofmoney91 wrote:



I was thinking that since reviews are not published unless they meet the minimum requirement of 100 characters, perhaps a change could be made to not place collaborator/prog reviewer reviews in the featured columns unless they meet a minimum character requirement of, I dunno, maybe 300. All reviews, collab or not, would be published in the side column instead of the featured spot.
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My description is convoluted so I thought I'd chart what I mean.


All non-collab/PR reviews = side column

Collab/PR reviews & not 300 characters = side column

Collab/PR reviews &  300 characters = "Collaborators/Expert Reviews" column


The problem with this suggestion is that many reviews of singles or EPs simply don't need 300+ words.  So that would be an issue.

Well, how many reviews does an EP or single need?



I think that's a moot and strange question to pose.  How many reviews does any album "need?"

Albums' rankings in the charts have a lot to do with not just the rating, but with the number of ratings.

Originally posted by colorofmoney91 colorofmoney91 wrote:

Also, the character count minimum could easily be altered between discography categories.
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