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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 05 2012 at 11:02
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 05 2012 at 10:43

Well, I've never lost interest in Jazz, but that's because I never had any interest in it in the first place.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 05 2012 at 10:26
Originally posted by thehallway thehallway wrote:

I will head over eventually, but I feel that right now, I'd just be adding to the problem. If the admins could find a community of Duke Ellington fans...... a Gershwin appreciation society..... I don't know, a 'bop forum'..... they might be able to pull them in and get a much more comprehensive, well-rounded and fun site.

There may be other established sites about jazz, but if they don't have a user reviwing capacity then visitors to such sites might be exactly the kind of people that JMA can lure in!



The reviewing capacity is a draw card of Max's site, huh? It's certainly what sucked me into PA & JMA
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 05 2012 at 10:14

I will head over eventually, but I feel that right now, I'd just be adding to the problem. If the admins could find a community of Duke Ellington fans...... a Gershwin appreciation society..... I don't know, a 'bop forum'..... they might be able to pull them in and get a much more comprehensive, well-rounded and fun site.

There may be other established sites about jazz, but if they don't have a user reviwing capacity then visitors to such sites might be exactly the kind of people that JMA can lure in!



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 05 2012 at 10:12
Originally posted by thehallway thehallway wrote:

Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

Originally posted by thehallway thehallway wrote:

The only trouble with JMA is it's full of people from PA.

Stupid PA people have to ruin everything.

I should elaborate. It's not the fact that they emigrate from here that is a problem, but their naturally proggy tastes. I know that JMA are struggling to build a fanbase, but the huge slant towards fusion will definitely confuse and/or put off a lot of people who want to celebrate swing or big band jazz (for example). Earlier types of jazz are almost ignored over there.


I guess I see what you're saying...but I don't see what's stopping anyone from going over there and "celebrating" the jazz music they enjoy.  I would guess the problem is there's well established sites like all about jazz with which JMA has to compete; for progressive rock PA was among the first, quickly grew, and is now the premier site for such music.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 05 2012 at 10:12
Originally posted by thehallway thehallway wrote:

Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

Originally posted by thehallway thehallway wrote:

The only trouble with JMA is it's full of people from PA.

Stupid PA people have to ruin everything.

I should elaborate. It's not the fact that they emigrate from here that is a problem, but their naturally proggy tastes. I know that JMA are struggling to build a fanbase, but the huge slant towards fusion will definitely confuse and/or put off a lot of people who want to celebrate swing or big band jazz (for example). Earlier types of jazz are almost ignored over there.

In the real world, fusion, funk and rock-influenced jazz play a small part in the history of jazz music, and the cause of JMA's disproportionate focus on these subgenres (which will look like a bias to any random visitors) can only have been caused by the people who flocked there from PA.




We've actually been discussing that ourselves actually...oh dear - we've just hijacked a hijacked thread. Apologies all.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 05 2012 at 10:07
Originally posted by thehallway thehallway wrote:

The only trouble with JMA is it's full of people from PA. That's why their top ten is basically Miles Davis.


I've nearly got Charles Mingus in there - I'll finish my 5 star review and see if I can swing it hahaha!
And Herbie Hancock's there  too (and John Coltrane) - but the wrong Hancock album in my opinion Wink

So many PA folks (such as me) have made the leap
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 05 2012 at 10:04
Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

Originally posted by thehallway thehallway wrote:

The only trouble with JMA is it's full of people from PA.

Stupid PA people have to ruin everything.

I should elaborate. It's not the fact that they emigrate from here that is a problem, but their naturally proggy tastes. I know that JMA are struggling to build a fanbase, but the huge slant towards fusion will definitely confuse and/or put off a lot of people who want to celebrate swing or big band jazz (for example). Earlier types of jazz are almost ignored over there.

In the real world, fusion, funk and rock-influenced jazz play a small part in the history of jazz music, and the cause of JMA's disproportionate focus on these subgenres (which will look like a bias to any random visitors) can only have been caused by the people who flocked there from PA.




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 05 2012 at 09:58
Originally posted by thehallway thehallway wrote:

The only trouble with JMA is it's full of people from PA.

Stupid PA people have to ruin everything.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 05 2012 at 09:56
The only trouble with JMA is it's full of people from PA. That's why their top ten is basically Miles Davis.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 05 2012 at 09:55
I think I've been too dismissive of modern acts in the past - I keep finding that, looking past the studio separation of an album and of its generically "prog" title and art, it'll still contain a few good ideas. Of course I don't think I'll ever find something that matches up to Magma, or Henry Cow, or Comus in the modern prog-rock world, since it is simply too based upon itself to do much surprising, but there are still hours upon hours of great songs being written - plenty to envelop yourself in whenever you do tire of the greats.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 05 2012 at 09:51
Originally posted by thehallway thehallway wrote:

I'm certainly losing interest in prog......

.......Archives.



Then come to the dark side....



.....JMA

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 05 2012 at 09:41

I'm certainly losing interest in prog......










.......Archives.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 05 2012 at 08:15
Originally posted by Mellotron Storm Mellotron Storm wrote:

 
...Listening to HENRY COW right now(Leg End) and i mean how could you tire of this ?
true, hard to not enjoy that oneApprove


Edited by progprogprog - January 05 2012 at 08:27
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 04 2012 at 22:06
Originally posted by Alberto Muņoz Alberto Muņoz wrote:

Originally posted by Hercules Hercules wrote:

I've never tired of prog and I doubt if I ever will.
 


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I feel the need to say i agree after getting a few messages from people wondering why i'm losing interest in prog.LOL
There's way too much variety for me to get bored with prog.I tend to go from one sub-genre to the other in my rotation so i just can't ever see myself getting bored.Besides i love this style too much.I mentioned earlier i haven't sought out new bands like i used to but that doesn't mean i don't have quite a few 2011 albums that i rate very highly.I'm sure i gave out six five star ratings for 2011 releases and i still have a few more to check out.Listening to HENRY COW right now(Leg End) and i mean how could you tire of this ?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 04 2012 at 17:34
Originally posted by Hercules Hercules wrote:

I've never tired of prog and I doubt if I ever will.
 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 04 2012 at 11:03
When I first discovered prog in the 90's, the 70's stuff was all I was interested in and I felt that nothing could ever be that good in modern times.  Since 2000 or so, I've been happy to have been proven wrong.  Honestly, for me, the "greats" of the 70's are what I have almost completely lost interest in, though I still rate many of their albums as masterpieces.  I just don't feel any need to hear them anymore, since they are imprinted on my brain forever.

I am of the opinion that there is much new prog and progressive music (to me, two different, yet sometimes the same, depending on the artist, things) can be as good or even better than the 70's stuff.  I find plenty of great music to listen to.

Having said that, I totally understand about prog burnout.  I am an ardent fan of the symphonic rock style, yet have gone through at least two phases of feeling very burnt out on it.  So I listened to other things......jazz, classical, electronic, RIO, etc.  But I always come back to it for some reason, just my musical sweet spot I guess you could say.

Sure there is a lot of crap today, and I've found plenty of 70's crap as well in my delvings into prog and music generally.  The biggest difference I see between today and the 70's is that progressive rock in the 70's was actually a money making venture.  Also the record labels creating something of a filter so that lesser groups didn't reach our ears (unlike now, when anyone with a computer and some instruments can make a reasonably well produced album).  Of course, it also meant that some truly talented bands didn't make it past the filter either.

But for the OP, nothing wrong with tiring of a genre and moving on to other things.  Whatever works for you.  Personally, I don't see how I could ever tire of prog in general, since there is so much variety, but if I do there is always plenty of other music to check out.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 03 2012 at 20:16
Originally posted by AtomicCrimsonRush AtomicCrimsonRush wrote:

Man this thread gets some workout these days

I am opposite - gaining interest

discovering new prog - but mostly from the 70s and its amazing to unearth these treasures.


I think it's really held quite steady for me over the years.  Granted I do have a bigger tent of artists I consider prog than some.  I always keep an open mind to the new stuff happening, what the older artists are doing, and there's still plenty out there from what has come before to explore.  I guess one of the cool things about when I got on the bandwagon was that prog really wasn't a genre separate from the rest of rock.  It was just great music that wasn't as popular. 


Edited by Slartibartfast - January 03 2012 at 20:17
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 03 2012 at 18:44
Man this thread gets some workout these days

I am opposite - gaining interest

discovering new prog - but mostly from the 70s and its amazing to unearth these treasures.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 03 2012 at 15:59
Originally posted by progprogprog progprogprog wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

You didn't get it and you did think he was serious. That much is clear.

edit/ But you are correct. You were answering Dean about his part about you. Sorry, bit tired. And a cold.
Hope you'll be fine soonBeer

Thanks...bed soon I think.
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