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Points: 1072 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 19 2011 at 14:51
I like ELP a lot. Better than most of the stuff on the top 100. That said, they aren't quite as good as Yes, Genesis, Pink Floyd.... They are corny, yes, they are half-baked, yes, but they do some great stuff.

I particularly like their albums Emerson Lake & Powell and Black Moon. Black Moon they almost seem serious.


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Points: 16952 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 19 2011 at 14:54
ignore the grammatical error in the last post. Tongue
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Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

ignore the grammatical error in the last post. Tongue


what grammatical error? Tongue
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BSS should definetly be in the top 100. Karn Evil 9 is phenomenal.
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Originally posted by kennyL kennyL wrote:

Let me get this straight: There are 100 top prog albums listed. Santana, Miles, & Focus(hamberger concerto). BUT not even ONE ELP album is in there? Who is compiling this list and what are they smoking? I gotta get out of here...

 
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Points: 16449 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 19 2011 at 15:20
Most people consider their albums to be very good and even ground breaking, but nowhere near as many people consider them to be one of the all time great bands in the way that Yes, Genesis, Krimson, Tull, Floyd and Rush are.
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Points: 5285 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 19 2011 at 15:42
Yes, ELP should be there over Floyd, Tull, at least their first cd. He doesn't surprise me that their not on that list considering all the negative criticism over their bombastic style. I give more importance to their 4 stars ratings for the first 4 albums.
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I'm surprised there isn't any ELP in the list, but that's the way the reviews have gone. ELP maybe have relatively few fans here compared to Genesis and Yes. That's no ones fault. It's just the way it is.

It took me along time to warm to ELP.

Maybe now I have, I should pull my finger out and review all their albums...

Let's have an ELP bomb. Everyone review BSS and give it five stars (regardless of what you may really think about it) That way they'll have an album in the top 100, and we can avoid people moaning about it in the future..

Edit: I've been listening to Trilogy in the car over the weekend. That's the album that should be in the top 100, imo!

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So ELP is such an awesomely great band that they should be faked up into a higher ranking than the algorithm would be placing them in? 
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ELP-a definitive, trend-setting, and groundbreaking prog band.
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Points: 16130 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 19 2011 at 16:16
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

So ELP is such an awesomely great band that they should be faked up into a higher ranking than the algorithm would be placing them in? 



I wasn't being entirely serious...
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Points: 27802 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 19 2011 at 16:18
I could never understand why people get so worked up over that damned list.I could care less and haven't even looked at it for a couple of years.


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Originally posted by OT Räihälä OT Räihälä wrote:

It's not only question of ELP. For example, the TOP30 includes crossover pop band like Supertramp, but no Gentle Giant, who is seen as genre-defining band by many.

I believe most collaborators and special reviewers (others don't really matter) agree that ELP belongs to the very top of prog as a whole, but their albums are somewhat inconsistent, and for that reason they seldom get higher rating than 4 stars, and that is not enough to qualify to TOP100. A "Best of ELP" album would get there with ease.

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Points: 28057 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 19 2011 at 16:33
Here is a thread where somebody has a different opinion than other people. Let's talk about it at length.
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Points: 17863 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 19 2011 at 16:52
Originally posted by TheProgtologist TheProgtologist wrote:

I could never understand why people get so worked up over that damned list.I could care less and haven't even looked at it for a couple of years.
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......and its a list of results from reviewers...so really who cares, when I do look at the review page I only read the commentary. The number rating system means horse dung to me.
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Points: 20914 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 19 2011 at 16:54
I'm not a big ELP fan but this kind of surprising.

If you filter down to Symph only they come in at 18th, 25th, 38th & 39th. That feels about right to me but what the F do I know?
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Points: 7971 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 19 2011 at 17:07
Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

ELP didn't age well apparently.  The PA generation of reviewers seem to quite dislike ELP.


Yes, I believe this is the biggest thing here: they didn't aged well.

Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:

Here is a thread where somebody has a different opinion than other people. Let's talk about it at length.


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Points: 13244 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 19 2011 at 17:22

I guess ELP aren't that easy to get in to, Emerson can be ... overwhelming, to say the least, which is not something everyone (including true progheads, whatever that may be) can appreciate.
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Points: 19551 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 19 2011 at 17:26
Originally posted by RoyFairbank RoyFairbank wrote:

I like ELP a lot. Better than most of the stuff on the top 100. That said, they aren't quite as good as Yes, Genesis, Pink Floyd.... They are corny, yes, they are half-baked, yes, but they do some great stuff.

I particularly like their albums Emerson Lake & Powell and Black Moon. Black Moon they almost seem serious.

I respect ELP a lot, they are an iconic band that represents a high point in the history of Symphonic Prog, but not a real fan of them.

I believe they reached their peak too soon with Trilogy and BSS and then IMO everything was downhill, with a couple of good albums.

But surely they did very good stuff, and Black Moon is an excellent album that gave me hopes for a re-birth that never happened.

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