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Poll Question: Choose the conspiracy theory that most interests you
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Points: 34550 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2011 at 17:41
Good point, while the Fed one is shaky, there was the one about ending Vietnam and he ended up dead not much later.
The vested interest in Vietnam is well known.
Makes for another good story.
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^ Yea it seems the one that has potential deep roots is JFK......Vietnam, Cuba, New Orleans, Dallas, Russia....even pole dancers...LOL
 
But that one of all probably has the most interest to me......Like I said I thought the movie JFK was pretty good. First time I saw the Zapruder film I think.....


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Even Zapruder film is a conspiracy theory/hoax.......

 
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Yeah, I've heard before Zapruder was either altered or outright a fraud.
I can't understand altered because if so they did an amazingly lousy job LOL and that's the one thing many point to as visible proof he could not have been killed as we're told...so if it was made up completely, again they really suck!

Ugh, that repeating frame of JFK is tough to watch. When you really consider what it is that is happening...




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Have been watching fascinating series on symbolism in buildings and corporate logos

such as 



It is quite fascinating but the symbolism implies here that massive advanced technology such as actual time travel is being hidden from us and will be revealed in future. Stargate is not interesting to me but apparently the wheel and blue light as well as pyramids with obelisk in centre and blue column of light above is a secret 'reveal' - a Freemasons symbol

so we have symbols such as

seen on













Intriguing take on Oscars symbolism here


This can really mess with your head so take as a grain of salt

pretty bizarre synchronicity though.


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Stuart Mackenzie:  Well, it's a well known fact, Sonny Jim, that there's a secret society of the five wealthiest people in the world, known as The Pentavirate, who run everything in the world, including the newspapers, and meet tri-annually at a secret country mansion in Colorado, known as The Meadows.

Tony Giardino:  So who's in this Pentavirate?

Stuart Mackenzie:  The Queen, The Vatican, The Gettys, The Rothschilds, *and* Colonel Sanders before he went tits up. Oh, I hated the Colonel with 'is wee *beady* eyes, and that smug look on his face. "Oh, you're gonna buy my chicken! Ohhhhh!"

Charlie Mackenzie:  Dad, how can you hate "The Colonel"?

Stuart Mackenzie:  Because he puts an addictive chemical in his chicken that makes ya crave it fortnightly, smartass!
"Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard." -- H.L. Mencken
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REPTILIAN SHAPE SHIFTERS ARE AMONG US
Note they are always reporters, or Wubya. Never a regular person but always someone on film...surely cant be a weird glitch or anything

It cant be look at his crazy eyes!


Gettin a bit serious, it was needed to post some hilarious BSLOL
These reptilians have some serious balls, I mean why is it always news reporters they become? They are taunting us. Also they need medical help, since so often they can't seem to control their shape shifting!




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My favorite conspiracy theory is that there is a website which on the surface seems to be dedicated to a somewhat obscure music form, but in reality is a base of operations for a small group of "special collaborators" who are plotting to take over the world.   Wacko
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Originally posted by The Doctor The Doctor wrote:

My favorite conspiracy theory is that there is a website which on the surface seems to be dedicated to a somewhat obscure music form, but in reality is a base of operations for a small group of "special collaborators" who are plotting to take over the world.   Wacko


Sssssssssshhhhhhhhhh! They must not find this out

Emblematic Structure of Freemasonry
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^^^ Is that Freemasons G the same as the Google G?

Why is is that every so called conspiracy is right before our eyes - we see these symbols daily but pay no attention to any dark meaning behind them?




Anyway it gets bad when the entertainment industry is being targetted such as here


apparently all musicians are bound to a code to carry out the 'cause'

I quote (but don't necessarily believe) the following:

  • Many artists are themselves involved in the Occult and members of secret societies like the ones mentioned above, and the Church of Satan[1]. They are practicing Occultism and Black Magic (like Marilyn Manson, Ozzy Osbourne, Led Zeppelin to name a few), and this web site has the ambition to reveal what is behind the "glamour". Their task is to demoralize our youth, to create a society where no one is able to think for themselves (contrary to what the pop culture is trying to teach us about the "rebellious" rock music). The Art Industry creates "Icons" with degrading and Satanic messages, whom are supposed to be a replacement for the 'invisible' God. The musicians are also often acting degraded and high or low on drugs, so their fans start acting the same. The purpose is to create apathy and decay. Quite a few recordings have subliminal backward messages in their music, like Led Zeppelin, Michael Jackson, The Eagles, and more ... Here is a website that tells you more about Backmasking: http://www.nauglefest.net/backmask.htm. There is no doubt these backward messages exist, but the question is, who put them there? The record companies? The musicians? Demons? In the long run, it doesn't matter that much. It's there, and it DOES affect our subconscious minds, and it's not positive...

Does this all sound crazy? Unbelievable? Yes, it does. However, hopefully you will change your mind after have read the articles on this web page, and the testimonies from people who themselves are/were working in the Music Industry. My true ambition is to help putting a stop to what is happening in the Industry, to stop the vicious mind control, which creates rich but powerless puppets, whose purpose are to mislead, degrade and kill. Hopefully, the reader will see the truth and spread the word of mouth to reveal and possibly save those who "Sold their Souls to Rock And Roll (And Mind Control)".

And who am I? I am Wes Penre, a former rock musician and composer. I am one of those who did not fit into the Agenda of the Elite. I am one of those who at that time didn't understand why my revealing lyrics and melodic songs were not appreciated at the Record Companies. Now I know better. And no matter what some people might think, I am NOT a bitter, failed musician, who wants to "get even" with the Industry. I live a life I am very happy with, and even if I had the chance again, I would not sign up to be a professional musician.
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Dear God that was depressing, JJ. For 3 minutes I was inside that guy's mind, and it is not a happy place...
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Originally posted by AtomicCrimsonRush AtomicCrimsonRush wrote:

Have been watching fascinating series on symbolism in buildings and corporate logos
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pretty bizarre synchronicity though.
 
The pyramid and the all seeing eye of providence on the dollar bill predates its use in Fremasonary by about 20 years - not an impressive fact I admit, but one that puts the cart before the horse so to speak. Other masonic symbology is likewise purloined from other sources, and since much of it relates to stone masons (who were responsible for "architecure" in the days before preformed concrete and steel structures) it is hardly a mystery that much of this symbology appears in the architechture of the past 200 years, copiests that we are.
 
The ingenuity of man never fails to amaze me, that when faced with one possible and highly likely explanation and one fanciful and highly improbable that invariably it is the latter that intrigues and beguiles us the most, as if life isn't complicated enough that we need to make it even more complex and unbelievable. When there is a wealth of evidence that pyramid were constructed by man for no purpose other than to impress (a trait shared with lower creature such as the Bowerbird), so even when faced with the "wonder" of Giza and be suitibably impressed, we can chose to ignore the other 132 pyramids in Egypt and the several hundred others around the world that are on a equal or lesser scale and speculate some extra-terrestrial, supernatural or "science fiction" origin instead of accepting the obvious based upon the actual archaeological evidence; and the realisation that the "brain" that can invent a Pentium quad-core processor and the iPod is the same "brain" that built the pyramids and Stonehenge is the same "brain" that daubed mud on the wall of a cave in France is the same "brain" that migrated out of Africa to populate the entire planet and is the same "brain" that fell out of a tree and learnt to walk on two legs over 200,000 years ago.
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Points: 12794 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2011 at 20:06
I didn't know British people could be crazy. Especially this crazy.
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Originally posted by SolarLuna96 SolarLuna96 wrote:

I didn't know British people could be crazy. Especially this crazy.
I knew Americans were unlucking in posting unquoted smart-arsed oneliners out of sequence, but not this unlucky Tongue
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Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by SolarLuna96 SolarLuna96 wrote:

I didn't know British people could be crazy. Especially this crazy.
I knew Americans were unlucking in posting unquoted smart-arsed oneliners out of sequence, but not this unlucky Tongue
Luckily, I can always reluck after unlucking.
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Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by SolarLuna96 SolarLuna96 wrote:

I didn't know British people could be crazy. Especially this crazy.
I knew Americans were unlucking in posting unquoted smart-arsed oneliners out of sequence, but not this unlucky Tongue

I meant Henry's post before you ninja'd me Censored
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Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

Dear God that was depressing, JJ. For 3 minutes I was inside that guy's mind, and it is not a happy place...
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It turns out stories, even pure fiction, are very important to us (even in our time)--  short ones, long ones, fake ones, real ones, it doesn't seem to matter, we loves us some stories.

As for the Zapruder Film... oy, it's a Pandora's box.   The film, much like Kennedy's body, was so badly handled in the panic and rush of those first few days after the assassination that some damage may have occurred by the time it was seen by the public.   As far as we know, as documented by the Assassination Records Review Board (the last Federal body to investigate the case, more specifically to gather all extant documentation of the event), the original film was sold to Time-Life by Zapruder the day of (or after) the crime.

But here's the kicker: evidently Time-Life "loaned" the original to the Secret Service the weekend of Nov 23rd to study and make copies which was done over that weekend at the CIA's photography lab in Maryland.   It was then returned to Time-Life on Monday, Nov 25.   No one really knows what if anything was done to the film by authorities during that weekend, or whether the version returned to Time-Life, which famously published a series of low-quality stills from the film in an article on the assassination, was the true original.

As for hard, visual evidence the film was altered, the jury is still out, but there are tons of distortions and artifacts in the currently available version of the film (even the good, remastered one), and it takes years to fully comprehend.   I'm still noticing things I hadn't before.





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Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

It turns out stories, even pure fiction, are very important to us (even in our time)--  short ones, long ones, fake ones, real ones, it doesn't seem to matter, we loves us some stories.

As for the Zapruder Film... oy, it's a Pandora's box.   The film, much like Kennedy's body, was so badly handled in the panic and rush of those first few days after the assassination that some damage may have occurred by the time it was seen by the public.   As far as we know, as documented by the Assassination Records Review Board (the last Federal body to investigate the case, more specifically to gather all extant documentation of the event), the original film was sold to Time-Life by Zapruder the day of (or after) the crime.

But here's the kicker: evidently Time-Life "loaned" the original to the Secret Service the weekend of Nov 23rd to study and make copies which was done over that weekend at the CIA's photography lab in Maryland.   It was then returned to Time-Life on Monday, Nov 25.   No one really knows what if anything was done to the film by authorities during that weekend, or whether the version returned to Time-Life, which famously published a series of low-quality stills from the film in an article on the assassination, was the true original.

As for hard, visual evidence the film was altered, the jury is still out, but there are tons of distortions and artifacts in the currently available version of the film (even the good, remastered one), and it takes years to fully comprehend.   I'm still noticing things I hadn't before.



I did not know this about the Time-Life loan out.....How/why did Zapruder sell the film the day after or even 2-3 days after the incident? I wonder what he was thinking since I am sure he had to contact them first........
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Everyone knew he'd taken a film of the assassination because he was interviewed on nationwide TV several hours after it happened where it was revealed he'd captured it.   Time-Life immediately offered him, I think it was $50,000 (a huge amount then) and Zapruder being a small businessman, knew a good deal when he saw it.   The big mistake was not making or securing a copy for himself that day before Time-Life gave it to the Feds.  

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