Video & PC Game Discussion

I heard you need Steam to run it on PC though?  I don't just mean the Digital Download version either.

I don't like a game to be reliant on Steam.


Edited by James - November 11 2011 at 01:53

I think so. They have all gotten it from steam so I think that may be the only way to do it on PC.

My laptop is old, filled and I dont like playing games on PC really...so I'll be getting it on console anyway.
Most likely 360 because I've not touched it in forever.


edit: Also I dont know what Joel means exactly, but it sounds like Heavy Rain. Load screens had close up, and very amazing, shots of their faces that would look around and I think you had some real minor control of.


Edited by JJLehto - November 11 2011 at 01:57

It sounds like the load screens are better and more important than the game. 

But it shouldn't even be the case.  Game makers/suppliers shouldn't force something like Steam (which is hit and miss most of the time anyway!) on casual PC gamers who may not use the Internet much.  It's like the DRM thing again.

There should be a non-Steam version of the game.

Urgh.

I don't own a console.  There's far too few games I want to play on 360 or PS3 to warrant buying one.  Most games I like are available on PC.  I'm fine using Steam personally even if it is a really crappy piece of software.

My mate bought a Warhammer 40,000 game that required Steam.  He's never got on with Steam and it always seems to stop working or mess up for him.  Plus he uses a dongle like me and you'd think if a game came on CD, you shouldn't need to download anything else except for a patch.  Not the case for that particular game.  It's a hideous concept.

Someone in the UK was complaining about not being able to play Skyrim because Steam required the game to be unlocked by midnight and he'd got his copy early (a friend of mine got his early too; quite legitimately -- only on 360).

It's just silly.

Who cares whether you can play a game a day earlier or not?  It was a legitimate purchase too.  He had a right to play it!


Edited by James - November 11 2011 at 02:21

I was not talking about Skyrim so much as PC games on CD that require Steam to play them.  I find that intrusive.  Skyrim just happens to be the latest example of it.  It doesn't matter whether it's an amazing game (and I am certain it will be be better than Oblivion).  The whole Steam thing irks me.

And you say who cares?

I do.

I'm sure others do as well.

Yep and even if you ignore my other Steam comments, just that part alone is annoying.

When you buy a game, you naturally want to play it as soon as possible (upon installation and after updates/patches).

It's just silly.

Ah well, us PC gamers have always been shafted since Consoles have become the norm.

I'm not particularly against Steam but I don't see why people think it's the second coming of Jesus. The sales are good but that's about it for me, and any DRM which has to run in the background loses big points.

Although the DRM may not be too bad for downloaded games, putting it on a disc is horrible.

I agree, Joel.

I'm not against Steam either.  I've had a few issues with it but that's mostly because of my crappy Internet connection.

However, my mate has had a lot of issues.  It didn't help that he forgot his log-in details and so couldn't play a game as he'd already registered it on that account (he had to get a new account).  He also uses a Dongle like I do and prefers to play games Offline.  He wants to just install a game and play it.  He has to look up his log-in and password details every time he wants to use Steam (which isn't very often and is probably why he forgets them).  Then when he does, some games just don't like to work in Offline mode.

He told me recently he has an offline-mode issue.  I keep meaning to take a look at it.  He's not computer techy.

Quite a few people aren't.

Joel, Steam isn't particularly memory hogging, so it running in the background isn't that much of an issue.  I am happy downloading games via Steam.  They have some excellent deals.  I just don't like the fact that many non-tech savvy people are forced to download a DRM system (and register and remember log-ins and passwords) just to play a game that is single-player and doesn't even really need an Internet Connection to run (you can live without updates and patches in many cases).

Anyhow, how's Skyrim going for you?  Still enjoying it?


Edited by James - November 11 2011 at 07:21

I hate playing games on PC. It seems like a terrible waste of time and money. It's because I am a perfectionist in that respect.