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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote octopus-4 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2011 at 14:00
Originally posted by Jake Kobrin Jake Kobrin wrote:

I'm not sure how obscure any of these are:

While Pink Floyd was in the studio recording Pipers at the Gates of Dawn, The Beatles were in the same studio recording Sgt Pepper. The Beatles asked The Floyd to watch them (and possibly help them) record Lovely Rita. There's also a rumor that you can hear parts of Lovely Rita on Pow R Ad Hoc but I am quite certain that is ONLY a rumor. 

Not quite prog but mellotron related at least. The first hit single to ever include mellotron on it was Manfred Mann's Semi-Detached, Suburban Mr.James in 1966.
Not a rumour. I have a mp3 copy of a session with Barrett and McCartney (barely listenable).
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Obscure fun Moody Blues facts:

The Moodies opened for the Beatles on their 1965 tour.

Mike Pinder arranged for the Beatles to get a Mellotron and its first use was on the flute intro to Strawberry Fields.

Mike Pinder was to have played Mellotron on John's Imagine LP but when he got to the studio it was broken. Mike ended up playing tambourine instead. John Tout of Renaissance played piano on the same album but was mis-credited with playing acoustic guitar.

Mike Pinder was to have originally collaborated with Justin Hayward on the Blue Jays album but was replaced by John Lodge.

I got an email from Justin Hayward stating that he thought my song Blue Rain from my album Random Acts of Beauty sounded like a Moody Blues track.

Mike Pinder asked me how come I didn't name my son Mike instead of Justin.

I once gave Patrick Moraz a ride to the airport.

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Edited by DavidMinasian - October 19 2011 at 14:32
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I forget where I read this, but supposedly Michael Giles was going to join Gentle Giant after Malcolm left, but Giant declined his induction into the band just before the very first gig with him and instead they got Weathers a few days later.

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The X-rated lyrics from live versions of Crimson's "Easy Money" were actually written as part of the song by Richard Palmer-James.

Fripp wrote the "cigarettes, ice cream, figurines of the Virgin Mary" bit from "The Great Deceiver."
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote cstack3 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 21 2011 at 20:11
Originally posted by DavidMinasian DavidMinasian wrote:

Obscure fun Moody Blues facts:

The Moodies opened for the Beatles on their 1965 tour.

Mike Pinder arranged for the Beatles to get a Mellotron and its first use was on the flute intro to Strawberry Fields.

Mike Pinder was to have played Mellotron on John's Imagine LP but when he got to the studio it was broken. Mike ended up playing tambourine instead. John Tout of Renaissance played piano on the same album but was mis-credited with playing acoustic guitar.

Mike Pinder was to have originally collaborated with Justin Hayward on the Blue Jays album but was replaced by John Lodge.

I got an email from Justin Hayward stating that he thought my song Blue Rain from my album Random Acts of Beauty sounded like a Moody Blues track.

Mike Pinder asked me how come I didn't name my son Mike instead of Justin.

I once gave Patrick Moraz a ride to the airport.

Best;
David Minasian

^ Excellent, thanks for sharing!    
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote DisgruntledPorcupine Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 22 2011 at 00:53
Originally posted by DavidMinasian DavidMinasian wrote:

 
Mike Pinder asked me how come I didn't name my son Mike instead of Justin.

I once gave Patrick Moraz a ride to the airport.

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Haha those two are great! Shocked
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While working on the Foo Fighters- Echoes Silence Grace tour in '09
During one soundcheck in Rochester NY They played a 30 mins+ unnamed / not recorded yet piece with vocals.
Sitting behind FOH position I couldn't believe that what they were playing was as progressive as it gets without the keyboards !
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Originally posted by GypsyJoker GypsyJoker wrote:

Fripp wrote the "cigarettes, ice cream, figurines of the Virgin Mary" bit from "The Great Deceiver."


I think Fripp wrote all the lyrics to the song, the Great Deceiver
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Tony Kaye rehearsed Fragile before he left. They were also putting Heart of the Sunrise together on Rick's first practice with Yes.
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Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

Originally posted by GypsyJoker GypsyJoker wrote:

Fripp wrote the "cigarettes, ice cream, figurines of the Virgin Mary" bit from "The Great Deceiver."


I think Fripp wrote all the lyrics to the song, the Great Deceiver
From www.elephant-talk.com:

"What do the lyrics in the 'The Great Deceiver' refer to?
The lyrics to this song have always been controversial. Fripp wrote the "Cigarettes, ice cream, figurines of the Virgin Mary" verse - the only King Crimson lyrics he has ever authored - in response to the commercialization of Vatican City. The rest of the words were written by Richard Palmer-James."


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Originally posted by Formentera Lady Formentera Lady wrote:

Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

Originally posted by GypsyJoker GypsyJoker wrote:

Fripp wrote the "cigarettes, ice cream, figurines of the Virgin Mary" bit from "The Great Deceiver."


I think Fripp wrote all the lyrics to the song, the Great Deceiver
From www.elephant-talk.com:

"What do the lyrics in the 'The Great Deceiver' refer to?
The lyrics to this song have always been controversial. Fripp wrote the "Cigarettes, ice cream, figurines of the Virgin Mary" verse - the only King Crimson lyrics he has ever authored - in response to the commercialization of Vatican City. The rest of the words were written by Richard Palmer-James."


On my copy of the Brondesbury Tapes (Giles, Giles & Fripp), the song "Drop In" was credited solely to Fripp.  The King Crimson version on Epitaph is credited to Fripp/Giles/McDonald/Lake, but the lyrics are the same.  Not sure if Fripp did indeed write the lyrics, but it seems that he may in fact have. 

Fripp is also credited as sole author of other songs with lyrics on the Brondesbury Tapes, but these songs were never played or recorded that I know of by Crimson.


Edited by The Doctor - October 30 2011 at 12:26
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Here is a quick one that may or may have not appeared here.

Jimmy Hendrix was supposed to join Keith Emerson, Greg Lake and Carl Palmer for what it would have been a band called HELP instead of ELP. Obviously because of Hendrix demise, it never happened.
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The main riff to 'Interstellar Overdrive' was inspired by the theme tune to 'Steptoe and Son'
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Elton John Auditioned for the lead vocalist of King Crimson and Gentle Giant being turned down both times.
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Originally posted by leonalvarado leonalvarado wrote:

Here is a quick one that may or may have not appeared here.

Jimmy Hendrix was supposed to join Keith Emerson, Greg Lake and Carl Palmer for what it would have been a band called HELP instead of ELP. Obviously because of Hendrix demise, it never happened.
 
Actually the Idea was suggested but Emerson jammed with the Expirience once and he said that Hendrix was so loud that he would have been drowned out.
 
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Originally posted by progistoomainstream progistoomainstream wrote:

Elton John Auditioned for the lead vocalist of King Crimson and Gentle Giant being turned down both times.


And thank god too.  I like Elton, but I couldn't imagine him singing for Crimson or Giant, and Ray and Kerry (and Phil) did a perfect job for Giant. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote MacArthurParker Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 30 2011 at 17:53
Defiitely NOT prog but Don Johnson (yep, of Miami vice' fame) co-wrote a couple of songs on The Allman Bros 'Enlightened Rogues' album.As I say,not prog, merely trivia...
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote sturoc Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 31 2011 at 15:47
"Originally posted by presdoug
".. Pat Travers was inspired to pick up guitar playing after watching Hendrix open for The Monkees in Ottawa, Canada in the late sixties
 
Hendrix. And The Monkees...on one stage? The same night?! Okay, that beats the Deep Purple-Christopher Cross connection, by far!...""

Just a small follow up that Jimi Hendrix was a studio musician for a while and played a ton of Blues / R&B stuff in the early 60s before launching out into the Hendrix Sound most popularly known now.
There are several Lps out there featuring him as guitarist during this period. I have one bought in the mid 70s.


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When Atomic Rooster released their 5th studio album in 1973 called "Nice n Greasy", the guitarist was listed as Johnny Mandala, but in reality was John Goodsall, who later went on to fame with Brand X
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Originally posted by presdoug presdoug wrote:

When Atomic Rooster released their 5th studio album in 1973 called "Nice n Greasy", the guitarist was listed as Johnny Mandala, but in reality was John Goodsall, who later went on to fame with Brand X

He was also the guitar player on other albums that went uncredited or that they gave credit to someone else. He was the guitar player on some of Billy Idol's hits but the credit was given to Steve Stevens (who at the time was the guitar player on his touring band but eventually became the defacto guitar player).

Goods is an extraordinarily talented musician who hasn't always got the best end of the music industry. I believe that they still owe him royalties from the first few albums of Brand X.

Personally, I was delighted to work with John on my CD "Strangers In Strange Places".
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