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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 20 2011 at 18:21
Ah, yeah, I see how it works now. I'm just glad it didn't apply retroactively...Although I kind of wanted to be a PA celebrity. ;-)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 20 2011 at 18:22
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by HottiePlainview HottiePlainview wrote:

[QUOTE=Dean]In case the message hasn't got through yet: over-reliance on the auto-censor will result in a warning.

Then the auto-censor should censor to something that is not immediately recognizable as a particular word.
I once proposed using nonsensical replacements of all the auto-censored words - needless to say this was taken completely the wrong way by absolutely everyone, humourless bunch that they are.[/QUOTE;

I was just thinking about that myself.  Whatever happened to that idea?  I suggest using Evolver's Spock for the f word.  "Spock you", "Go Spock yourself", "God, I need to get Spocked tonight", "Spocking A", etc.  LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 20 2011 at 18:23
Yes, I believe it's necesary to keep a certain level, and in my case, the only problem I had was with a band's name it was SWEATWATER, until I learned a trick, it looked like this SWEAT**TER, but it wasn't as ridiculous as the Genesis forum

They changed the name Dick, for the word Thingy, so when I wrote about Iron Maiden, the post read "Bruce Thingyson" LOL

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 20 2011 at 18:29
I have heard about this Thingyson he is very good to sing ive heard,

i have yet to read the books Charles Thingsens


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 20 2011 at 18:50
Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Yes, I believe it's necesary to keep a certain level, and in my case, the only problem I had was with a band's name it was SWEATWATER, until I learned a trick, it looked like this SWEAT**TER, but it wasn't as ridiculous as the Genesis forum

They changed the name Dick, for the word Thingy, so when I wrote about Iron Maiden, the post read "Bruce Thingyson" LOL

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Well, that's been fixed now and you don't need to use any tricks to get around it. So if you could remove the *trick* from your post so that it does not encourage the weak-willed and easily led to copy you that would be lovely.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 20 2011 at 19:00
Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:


A different forum I'm on does that.  It was funny at first, but you'd need a system that randomly selects from a long list.  The words "fridge" and "shirley" get more annoying to see than the expletives they replace
That's sort-of the whole point - those replacement words get old very quickly, but so do the words they replace. While through overuse we are inured to hearing swearing most of the time in our daily lives to the extend that we neither hear it or even notice we are using it, its constant repetition in print is just tiresome on the eyes.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 20 2011 at 19:09
How about we leave the swear censor the way it is, except on April Fool's it should replace ordinary words with swear words?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 20 2011 at 19:10
Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

How about we leave the swear censor the way it is, except on April Fool's it should replace ordinary words with swear words?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 20 2011 at 19:13
I am fine with the censor.  I don't know why it's a big deal.  If you don't know what f**k is when you see it written this way, then you don't need to know.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 20 2011 at 19:25
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

I am fine with the censor.  I don't know why it's a big deal.  If you don't know what f**k is when you see it written this way, then you don't need to know.


That's pretty much another way of saying that it's pointless. So, why can't it just be done away with?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 20 2011 at 21:24
I don't find swears offensive.  In fact, they can be helpful in accentuating a point.
That said, we are members here. We do not own the server, the software or the Internet connection the web site uses.
There are reasons a web host may not want language like that on the site.
First and foremost is accessability.  There are plent of places that use net-nannies and the like that block web sites.
A lot of these are libraries, where some people without Internet can go to get online.
Whether the operators of these facilities are right or wrong is not the issue.  However, I think we want as many people as possible to be able to get to the site.
There is no reason that we members, discussing music and whatever, have to swear to make a point.
 
 
Oh, and f**k.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 20 2011 at 23:11
Originally posted by Evolver Evolver wrote:

Oh, and f**k.

sh*t, you can't say f**k.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 21 2011 at 02:11
Oops. Forgot what I needed to do or undo prior to logging off last night. Sorry HP, thanks Dean...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 21 2011 at 03:16

Another thing/slightly off topic:  

It is inpolite, slightly childish and barbaric to swear. You will sink quite low in most people's estimation if you swear. The English language also have enough words to play around with. Swearing is not necessary. 

I ran a swearbox in my office for a while. Though I got a nice letter from the local cancer charity, thanking me for the donation, it was quite a painful excersise which cut down my swearing quite considerable. My profanities are now the likes of holy squirrel and other animal replacement of swear words. Although bad habits is difficult to quit and I sometimes fall into old habits. Try quit smoking. Try quit swearing. Try stop snoring at work.... although the latter one is beyond the mankind.

Censorship ? I would recommend people quit swearing everywhere in life. I would appeal to the good in everybody. Wink 




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 21 2011 at 06:46
Originally posted by Tony R Tony R wrote:

Oops. Forgot what I needed to do or undo prior to logging off last night. Sorry HP, thanks Dean...
I was going to wait for the anouncement that HottieCow and HottieFool were collaborating with HottieRollins on a re-working of Rick Wakeman's The Six Wives Of HottieVIII, but that could be sometime away yet.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 21 2011 at 06:50
Originally posted by toroddfuglesteg toroddfuglesteg wrote:

Another thing/slightly off topic:  

It is inpolite, slightly childish and barbaric to swear. 

It is none of these things.




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 21 2011 at 07:05
Originally posted by toroddfuglesteg toroddfuglesteg wrote:

Another thing/slightly off topic:  

It is inpolite, slightly childish and barbaric to swear. You will sink quite low in most people's estimation if you swear. The English language also have enough words to play around with. Swearing is not necessary. 

I ran a swearbox in my office for a while. Though I got a nice letter from the local cancer charity, thanking me for the donation, it was quite a painful excersise which cut down my swearing quite considerable. My profanities are now the likes of holy squirrel and other animal replacement of swear words. Although bad habits is difficult to quit and I sometimes fall into old habits. Try quit smoking. Try quit swearing. Try stop snoring at work.... although the latter one is beyond the mankind.

Censorship ? I would recommend people quit swearing everywhere in life. I would appeal to the good in everybody. Wink






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Holy Squirrel is probably the most offensive thing I've seen in print to date (I'm 49 and work in the debt collection industryWink) and it's on the next level of hell just below those who say frikkin' Angry

I'm not condoning swearing but one of the most prevalent urban myths that still circulates today is that those who swear  simply cannot articulate their ideas. This is unadulterated bollocks complete tosh coined by denim shirted liberals we all had to endure as schoolteachers during the 70's. I have a huge vocabulary and swear all the time and the principle reason is best summed up by one Billy Connelly:

F*ck Off works while Shoo, go away doesn't


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 21 2011 at 07:10
Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

Originally posted by toroddfuglesteg toroddfuglesteg wrote:

Another thing/slightly off topic:  

It is inpolite, slightly childish and barbaric to swear. You will sink quite low in most people's estimation if you swear. The English language also have enough words to play around with. Swearing is not necessary. 

I ran a swearbox in my office for a while. Though I got a nice letter from the local cancer charity, thanking me for the donation, it was quite a painful excersise which cut down my swearing quite considerable. My profanities are now the likes of holy squirrel and other animal replacement of swear words. Although bad habits is difficult to quit and I sometimes fall into old habits. Try quit smoking. Try quit swearing. Try stop snoring at work.... although the latter one is beyond the mankind.

Censorship ? I would recommend people quit swearing everywhere in life. I would appeal to the good in everybody. Wink






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Holy Squirrel is probably the most offensive thing I've seen in print to date (I'm 49 and work in the debt collection industryWink) and it's on the next level of hell just below those who say frikkin' Angry

I'm not condoning swearing but one of the most prevalent urban myths that still circulates today is that those who swear  simply cannot articulate their ideas. This is unadulterated bollocks complete tosh coined by denim shirted liberals we all had to endure as schoolteachers during the 70's. I have a huge vocabulary and swear all the time and the principle reason is best summed up by one Billy Connelly:

F*ck Off works while Shoo, go away doesn't
I hate hearing casual swearing in the street. Where the F word is used liberally in every sentence. It's horrible.
On the other hand a sharp "f**k" used sparingly is very effective and there is something very satisfying about calling someone a c**t! Occasionally. It's all context.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 21 2011 at 07:23
^ yep agreed Snowie you nailed the issue with 'sparing' as just like music, if you have unrelenting dissonance the listener just switches off, while the occasional and judicious burst of frisson retains its ability to shock or jolt the senses
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 21 2011 at 10:45
I hate to hear c*** under any circumstances and anyone who says it in my company gets a telling.
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