Forum Home Forum Home > Progressive Music Lounges > Prog Recommendations/Featured albums
  New Posts New Posts RSS Feed - Progressive blues - is such thing exist?
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login

Topic ClosedProgressive blues - is such thing exist?
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <1 6789>
Author
Message Reverse Sort Order
  Topic Search Topic Search  Topic Options Topic Options
cstack3 View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar
VIP Member

Joined: July 20 2009
Location: Tucson, AZ USA
Status: Offline
Points: 7264 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 13 2011 at 21:05
Dialing it back to about 1971-2 gives us a bunch.  Wishbone Ash, Captain Beyond, Deep Purple (arguably), Bloodwyn Pig, Led Zep, Jethro Tull, Pink Floyd etc.   
Back to Top
The Dark Elf View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar
VIP Member

Joined: February 01 2011
Location: Michigan
Status: Offline
Points: 13049 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 13 2011 at 17:50
Well, three songs come to mind as obvious progressive blues masterpieces:
 
 
 
 
 


Edited by The Dark Elf - August 13 2011 at 17:53
...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined
to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology...
Back to Top
awaken77 View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member


Joined: December 25 2008
Status: Offline
Points: 374 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 10 2011 at 03:38
 
Originally posted by desistindo desistindo wrote:

  But i have to say that blues is sometimes "anti-prog", cause is a genre too much tide in rigid scales, so you can run from the circular structure. 



yes, it is . traditional blues songs use 12-bar or 16-bar I-IV-V chord progression,
and most of blues songs have pretty the same structure.

progressive rock is not that simply defined, it's very various and flexible, and there is no such thing as "prog rock chord progression" . that's why all this topic arisen.

but what, if would song started from 12-bar blues progression, then developed into complex piece with mix of classical and jazz-inspired soloing and tempo/key changes, and then reverted back to I-IV-V. I'd call that "progressive blues rock" then


p.s when I wrote this, Artur Brown's Kingdom Come come to mind.
Galactic Zoo Dossier is very much prog-rock, but blues roots are everywhere



Edited by awaken77 - August 10 2011 at 03:42
Back to Top
desistindo View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: June 02 2010
Status: Offline
Points: 4321 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2011 at 13:01
A lot of heavy prog got blues influences, id highlight Atomic Rooster:










But i have to say that blues is sometimes "anti-prog", cause is a genre too much tide in rigid scales, so you can run from the circular structure.







Back to Top
thehallway View Drop Down
Prog Reviewer
Prog Reviewer
Avatar

Joined: April 13 2010
Location: Dorset, England
Status: Offline
Points: 1433 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2011 at 11:54

Originally posted by The_Jester The_Jester wrote:

Some Yes tracks are really bluesy. Like I've seen all good people: it's a blues shuffle.

A bit of a tenuous connection though. I would describe that more as boogie (woogie optional!), along with the Tormato demo track "Money".

There is blues in Steve Howe, but it gets a bit lost amongst all the other influences and styles that make up Yes.


Back to Top
tamijo View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: January 06 2009
Location: Denmark
Status: Offline
Points: 4287 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2011 at 07:04
Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours
Back to Top
ClemofNazareth View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Prog Folk Researcher

Joined: August 17 2005
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 4659 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2011 at 06:31

I don't think most folks here would consider this progressive, but by the same token many hardcore Delta or urban blues fans wouldn't consider it proper blues either.


"Peace is the only battle worth waging."

Albert Camus
Back to Top
SaltyJon View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator

Joined: February 08 2008
Location: Location
Status: Offline
Points: 28772 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2011 at 23:01
Originally posted by Man With Hat Man With Hat wrote:

Originally posted by ghost_of_morphy ghost_of_morphy wrote:

Actually, prog blues would be embodied by Captain Beefheart.

 
Absolutely. Sadly, not for everyone.
Back to Top
Atavachron View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator

Joined: September 30 2006
Location: Pearland
Status: Offline
Points: 65244 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2011 at 22:00
yeah they're called Led Zeppelin
Back to Top
Man With Hat View Drop Down
Collaborator
Collaborator
Avatar
Jazz-Rock/Fusion/Canterbury Team

Joined: March 12 2005
Location: Neurotica
Status: Offline
Points: 166178 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2011 at 21:28
Originally posted by ghost_of_morphy ghost_of_morphy wrote:

Actually, prog blues would be embodied by Captain Beefheart.

 
Absolutely. Sadly, not for everyone.
Dig me...But don't...Bury me
I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive
Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect.
Back to Top
Anthony H. View Drop Down
Prog Reviewer
Prog Reviewer
Avatar

Joined: April 11 2010
Location: Virginia
Status: Offline
Points: 6088 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2011 at 20:08
Check out Roine Stolt's album Wallstreet Voodoo.
Back to Top
cannon View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: July 03 2010
Location: Coho Country
Status: Offline
Points: 1302 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2011 at 11:59
Steamhammer. Especially Mk.II and Mountains. Thier last album as a trio, Speech(1972) was proto-metal/heavy prog/space-psych endeavour similar to that of Hawkwind. Steve Joliffe (Tangerine Dream) appeared on Mk. II (1969) with his sax and flute and the addition of drummer Mickey Bradley took the band more to a prog/blues/jazz fusion.
 
 
 


Edited by cannon - August 08 2011 at 12:00
Back to Top
BenevolentBehemoth View Drop Down
Forum Groupie
Forum Groupie
Avatar

Joined: March 15 2011
Location: USA
Status: Offline
Points: 85 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2011 at 11:33
All of the Gentle Giant Debut.
Back to Top
Slartibartfast View Drop Down
Collaborator
Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam

Joined: April 29 2006
Location: Atlantais
Status: Offline
Points: 29630 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2011 at 11:26
I haven't heard this one, but:
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
Back to Top
Triceratopsoil View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: April 03 2010
Location: Canada
Status: Offline
Points: 18016 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2011 at 11:07
Most of the people in this thread don't seem to know what the blues are.

Originally posted by ghost_of_morphy ghost_of_morphy wrote:

Actually, prog blues would be embodied by Captain Beefheart.
Back to Top
awaken77 View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member


Joined: December 25 2008
Status: Offline
Points: 374 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2011 at 11:06
Originally posted by silverpot silverpot wrote:

Floyd, definately.


yes, that's a good example
don't mention short songs (lot of them are blues-influenced), but even long suites like Echoes and  Shine On Your Craze Diamond have bluesy feeling  (thanks to Mr Gilmour)
Back to Top
Icarium View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar
VIP Member

Joined: March 21 2008
Location: Tigerstaden
Status: Offline
Points: 34055 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2011 at 11:04
Gentle giant is by roots very blusey even though they are all over the place, they got strong blues roots,



I would also call early Elton John progressive blues rock, cosue he experimented alot with blues and chrod progressions within the blues format
Back to Top
awaken77 View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member


Joined: December 25 2008
Status: Offline
Points: 374 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2011 at 10:59
how 'bout this one ?




Edited by awaken77 - August 08 2011 at 11:00
Back to Top
Dean View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout

Joined: May 13 2007
Location: Europe
Status: Offline
Points: 37575 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2011 at 10:48
I would nominate Groundhogs' Split (parts 1-4) - the title track from the split album is a Heavy-Psyche-Progressive-Blues epic
What?
Back to Top
TODDLER View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar
VIP Member

Joined: August 28 2009
Location: Vineland, N.J.
Status: Offline
Points: 3126 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2011 at 10:41
Regarding early Fleetwood Mac,.....there wasn't any influence of prog from Mr. Jeremy Spencer. He utterly hated "In the Court of the Crimson King"LOL He was one of those prog haters by nature. If anything sounded close to prog elements the credit would fall into the arms of Kirwan and Green. The closest Spencer ever came to prog in any sense of the word was when he did a cover of a NICE song which he played quietly on piano and gave it a flow of Folk influence.
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <1 6789>

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down



This page was generated in 0.133 seconds.
Donate monthly and keep PA fast-loading and ad-free forever.