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Poll Question: which one do you like the most?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 06 2011 at 17:27
Originally posted by EatThatPhonebook EatThatPhonebook wrote:

between the two, Beatles, but RS aren't getting any justice on this poll Unhappy

It's a which one do you like the most poll. Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 06 2011 at 17:53
Beatles were good around 66-68. The stones were just crap all round Cool
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 06 2011 at 18:10
Originally posted by Alitare Alitare wrote:

That confuses me. You Can't Always Get What You Want sounds totally identifiable from Gimmie Shelter, Country Honk, Angie, Paint it Black, Can't You Hear Me Knocking, Sympathy for the Devil, Wild Horses, etc. etc. Sure, Exile On Main St. is too much for me, but...
There is no need for confusion. I said all RS songs sound the same to me, not to Alitare . And I also said there were a few exceptions, with some of the ones you mentioned among them. I've only heard like 40 RS songs, and only 5 or 6 are distinguishable. To me, not Alitare of course
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 06 2011 at 20:19
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

I said all RS songs sound the same to me . And I also said there were a few exceptions. I've only heard like 40 RS songs, and only 5 or 6 are distinguishable.


Although I don't always agree with you I usually think you sincere, but this? Ermm

If we restrict ourselves to some of the 'famous' ones that everyone and their dog has heard (even yours) say,  Brown Sugar, Angie, Sympathy For the Devil, Paint it Black, Get Off of My Cloud, 19th Nervous Breakdown, Ruby Tuesday, Satisfaction, the Last Time, Under My Thumb, Let's Spend the Night Together and Honky Tonk Women and you heard them all back to back: you can't tell these songs apart?

Like all bands with a lengthy career playing music that is relatively simple both harmonically and structurally, the Stones have been guilty of repeating themselves yes (but only post Some Girls in my book has it been lazy and complacent drivel since)

I suspect that what you're really describing is someone like (gulp) Status Quo Dead
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 06 2011 at 21:59
Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

I said all RS songs sound the same to me . And I also said there were a few exceptions. I've only heard like 40 RS songs, and only 5 or 6 are distinguishable.


Although I don't always agree with you I usually think you sincere, but this? Ermm

If we restrict ourselves to some of the 'famous' ones that everyone and their dog has heard (even yours) say,  Brown Sugar, Angie, Sympathy For the Devil, Paint it Black, Get Off of My Cloud, 19th Nervous Breakdown, Ruby Tuesday, Satisfaction, the Last Time, Under My Thumb, Let's Spend the Night Together and Honky Tonk Women and you heard them all back to back: you can't tell these songs apart?

Like all bands with a lengthy career playing music that is relatively simple both harmonically and structurally, the Stones have been guilty of repeating themselves yes (but only post Some Girls in my book has it been lazy and complacent drivel since)

I suspect that what you're really describing is someone like (gulp) Status Quo Dead


Yeah, certainly in rock terms, they are not so indistinguishable.  Definitely don't have as much variation as Beatles but not many do, so that's ok.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 06 2011 at 23:12
Originally posted by rogerthat rogerthat wrote:


Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:


Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

I said all RS songs sound the same to me . And I also said there were a few exceptions. I've only heard like 40 RS songs, and only 5 or 6 are distinguishable.
Although I don't always agree with you I usually think you sincere, but this? ErmmIf we restrict ourselves to some of the 'famous' ones that everyone and their dog has heard (even yours) say,  Brown Sugar, Angie, Sympathy For the Devil, Paint it Black, Get Off of My Cloud, 19th Nervous Breakdown, Ruby Tuesday, Satisfaction, the Last Time, Under My Thumb, Let's Spend the Night Together and Honky Tonk Women and you heard them all back to back: you can't tell these songs apart?Like all bands with a lengthy career playing music that is relatively simple both harmonically and structurally, the Stones have been guilty of repeating themselves yes (but only post Some Girls in my book has it been lazy and complacent drivel since)I suspect that what you're really describing is someone like (gulp) Status Quo Dead
Yeah, certainly in rock terms, they are not so indistinguishable.  Definitely don't have as much variation as Beatles but not many do, so that's ok.
Look, songs like Paint it Black or Satisfaction are definitely recognizable. But most of the ones I've heard (again, I haven't heard more than 40) have same rhythms, same tempos, almost the same type of vocals (well, obviously), little if any melody (they just suffer compared to the Beatles) and the same licks and riffs with some variation. Believe me, I'm being sincere. I have given them some time (though, I have to say, they tire me too quickly so I haven't given them more than 6 listens per song... But please, for three-chord, three-minute, similar songs that should suffice, it's POP rock after all, it's supposed to be immediate, quick) but they have failed to capture me. Now, I've said before that I don't think The Beatles are the holy grail of rock music (though some songs really reach that level), but I can't compare what the Liverpool guys gave us in Rubber Soul, Revolver or Abbey Road (and scattered songs in all other albums) with the big pile of boredom that FOR ME Jagger and co have meant.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 06 2011 at 23:15
All I can say is...

PLEASED TO MEET YOU

HOPE YOU GUESS MY NAME
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 06 2011 at 23:17
Truth, that
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 06 2011 at 23:45
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

  Look, songs like Paint it Black or Satisfaction are definitely recognizable. But most of the ones I've heard (again, I haven't heard more than 40) have same rhythms, same tempos, almost the same type of vocals (well, obviously), little if any melody (they just suffer compared to the Beatles) and the same licks and riffs with some variation. Believe me, I'm being sincere. I have given them some time (though, I have to say, they tire me too quickly so I haven't given them more than 6 listens per song... But please, for three-chord, three-minute, similar songs that should suffice, it's POP rock after all, it's supposed to be immediate, quick) but they have failed to capture me. Now, I've said before that I don't think The Beatles are the holy grail of rock music (though some songs really reach that level), but I can't compare what the Liverpool guys gave us in Rubber Soul, Revolver or Abbey Road (and scattered songs in all other albums) with the big pile of boredom that FOR ME Jagger and co have meant.


Which is why I said you could maybe give Satanic Majesties a shot where they did try a few things.  I certainly don't see what is so generic about, for instance, She's A Rainbow.  I wonder if the grunge bands of today would be able to craft something that elegant. Your views on them are similar to as if someone had only heard pre-Rubber Soul Beatles and wondered what all the fuss was about.  I definitely agree that they can't hold a candle to Beatles but that's fine because not many can anyway. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 07 2011 at 08:46
^Maybe I will give that album a try Sir, maybe I will
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 07 2011 at 10:47

I take the Stones album you own is 'Forty Licks', given the number of their songs that you've heard.

If so, 'She's a Rainbow' is actually on that compilation. A bit of trivia: John Paul Jones arranged the strings on it!



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 07 2011 at 12:52
Even I don't think the Stones have 40 songs I like. Maybe twenty, tops.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 07 2011 at 12:53
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Going with the Stones, it has less votes, but could go either way.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 07 2011 at 12:55
 irespect them both due theor dramatical input in music history
though both of them do not toch my soul really
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 07 2011 at 23:26
I am infamous for my severe dislike of the Rolling Bones, the most revolting marketing scam in music , whose last decent album was back when Brian Jones (the real genius behind the band, IMHO) was getting the glamour twins upset by the swimming pool.
Once he was drowned, the output has been repulsive .Primitive drivel, poor musicianship, living OFF the past and basically depraved personas  etc.....
Enough said.
And I do expect a backlash from fans, I stand by my opinion but frankly , "you can guess my name" Wink


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I never post anything anywhere without doing more than basic research, often in depth.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2011 at 05:25
The Beatles; I like the Stones, but creatively (and in sense of importance) this is no contest.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2011 at 07:16
Well i go with the beatles, but i sure like some stones too, both bands hade a run of some realy great albums.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2011 at 09:18
Originally posted by tszirmay tszirmay wrote:

I am infamous for my severe dislike of the Rolling Bones, the most revolting marketing scam in music , whose last decent album was back when Brian Jones (the real genius behind the band, IMHO) was getting the glamour twins upset by the swimming pool.
Once he was drowned, the output has been repulsive .Primitive drivel, poor musicianship, living OFF the past and basically depraved personas  etc.....
Enough said.
And I do expect a backlash from fans, I stand by my opinion but frankly , "you can guess my name" Wink

I don't think you're infamous for anything...... I don't know who the hell you are!



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2011 at 11:08
Originally posted by thehallway thehallway wrote:

Originally posted by tszirmay tszirmay wrote:

I am infamous for my severe dislike of the Rolling Bones, the most revolting marketing scam in music , whose last decent album was back when Brian Jones (the real genius behind the band, IMHO) was getting the glamour twins upset by the swimming pool.
Once he was drowned, the output has been repulsive .Primitive drivel, poor musicianship, living OFF the past and basically depraved personas  etc.....
Enough said.
And I do expect a backlash from fans, I stand by my opinion but frankly , "you can guess my name" Wink

I don't think you're infamous for anything...... I don't know who the hell you are!

Neither do I LOL
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