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Not prog, but it must be recorded for posterity. In the 1970’s, Black Sabbath did a tour where, at the climax of each gig, a troupe of hired dwarves danced about the stage, then threw themselves into a pit, simulating the fires of hell. The vertically challenged artistes considered themselves to be prima donnas and, as far as the roadies were concerned, a bigger pain in the arse than the band. The roadies got their revenge on the last night of the tour by removing the mattresses from the bottom of the pit. It was alleged that the moans and groans of pain could be audibly heard some 20 minutes after the theatre emptied.

Another Sabbath one – Tommy Iommi put it about that when he did his guitar solo, everyone should pay attention – band members, roadies, audience, the lot. When they did a hometown gig, and the time for the solo materialised. The stage lights faded, the remaining band members respectfully withdrew to the stage sides, the roadies appeared next to Ozzy & Co and the audience maintained an expectant silence. A solitary spotlight focused on Iommi’s guitar as he raised his left arm. Just then, the PA system burst into life as a voice in a strong Black Country accent said, “Car 62, can you do a pick-up at New Street Station for Cradley Heath?”

Whilst on a tour to promote the “Bomber” album, Motorhead toured with a lighting rig shaped like a WW2 Lancaster bomber, which hung over the audience. On a gig in Berlin, Germany, Lemmy pointed to the rig and said to the audience, “Did you think you would see another one of those in the air?”

 
The ‘Power’ of music. It’s fairly common knowledge that when Pink Floyd played a one-off gig in the grounds of Crystal palace in South London, the P.A. was so powerful, it killed all the fish in the adjacent lake. However, it was reported by several people that at the same gig, a stray dog wandered in front of the P.A. stack, and promptly died. In a similar incident about a year or two later, Black Oak Arkansas played a hometown gig, at which a pigeon flew in front of the stack at the same instant as the guitarist hit a power chord. Several observers saw the pigeon disintegrate!
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Reminds me of hearing of  a Blue Cheer gig, where it was reported that a dog died.
                   And though not prog , when Blue Cheer played the Filmore West in late '68, things got so violent, what with band members and roadies literally throwing equipment at people in the audience, and it got totally out of control.
          After, the promoter banned Blue Cheer from playing the Filmore West.
             The Cheer were literally the loudest band in the world, and it was common practice at times for equipment to blow up due to the high volume, and the roadies would then replace it with new units, and crank it even further!
             When recording their second album in New York in 68, they destroyed the studio with their high volume, and recorded the rest of the record outside on a pier, being the only way they could finish it.
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The album 666 by Aphrodite's Child, was ready to be recorded on 1970,  in 1972, when but the labels were scared  of a radical Protestant Christian/Orthodox  veto because:

  1. The art cover was a black frame with a white 666


    , this was solved changing the color to red and adding "The Apocalypse of John 13 /18" on yellow letters, but two more problems appeared.
  2. The song  in which Irene Pappas has a 5:15 minutes orgasm, inverting  the order of the words "Who was, is, is to come" attributed  to God in the Book of Revelations, to "I was, I am, I am to come". (Inversion is synonymous of satanism according to radicals) 

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    http://www.vangelislyrics.com/aphrodites-child-666-the-story.htm all this is explained: 
    Quote The content of the album caused concern within Mercury (Philips) Records due to its controversial content.
    Mercury Records were most displeased with the track "Infinite" as they interpreted it as blasphemous.
    It resulted in the release intitially being shelved and then swapped to Vertigo, Mercury's sister company.
    They asked vangelis to cut out five minutes and he refused. The British record company said: "This is not good. It's pornographic, it's terrible and we're not going to release it.
    Vangelis refused to take the track off, but edited the work through 1971 to reduce its length.
    "
    In other words, the song 
     was 10 minutes long.
  3. As if this guys tried to sabotage themselves, the phrase  "this work was recorded under the influence of  "sahlep" was added to the credits, they were accused of worshiping a turk demon (some idiots said it was a drug),  when as a fact the Sahlep is only a non alcoholic beverage.
To avoid problems the label "Mercury Phillips" (who didn't wanted to get involved with radical zealots), send the album to their sister label "Vertigo" (Much more adventurous), and the album was only released 2 years after recorded and one after edited  in 1972, when the guys had already disbanded.

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I see what you're doing there Colin. I approve. 
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The band Harmonium was named after the Romanian member on this site.
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A non-prog one that turns into prog. There used to be a British Blues-Rock band in the early-mid 1970s called Stone the Crows. It featured Glaswegian Blues singer Maggie Bell (probably best known in the UK as the vocalist on the theme tune to TV crime drama “Taggart”) and guitarist Leslie Harvey, who was a younger brother of (The Sensational) Alex Harvey. At a gig at the Brangwyn Hall in Swansea, Harvey was fatally electrocuted on-stage by a live microphone. The band was scheduled to play a festival somewhere, and needed another guitarist at short notice. They made very strenuous attempts to lure former Fleetwood Mac rock God Peter Green out of premature retirement. He said a tentative ‘yes’, but quickly changed his mind and promptly disappeared. Upon hearing of the band’s plight, a guitarist, from a surprising background, stepped forward and volunteered his services. The festival gig went off well and the guitarist received unprecedented warmth, considering who he was and what his ‘roots’ were. It was Steve Howe of Yes!



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reminds me of something
       shortly before he died, about a month or so, Alex Harvey appeared, and was interviewed, on the Alan Thicke Show! No kidding, i saw it
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A mixed bag here…

 
Buddy Rich, oft-cited as the greatest drummer ever, was nonetheless not a popular man.  He was notoriously arrogant, short-tempered and fired his musicians on a whim.
Sometime after he died, his household received a phone call, and the caller was told, "I'm afraid Mr Rich is dead".  Some minutes later, the same caller phoned back, again asking for Buddy Rich.
"I've told you once, Buddy Rich is dead."
The caller explained, "I know, I just wanted to hear you say it again".
 
Julian Cope once recorded an album dressed only in a hessian sack. Throughout the recording, he slept underneath the mixing desk, and ended the session by chasing The Teardrop Explodes member David Balfe across some hills with a loaded shotgun.
 
Barking protest singer Billy Bragg was passing through a London Underground station when he ran into problems with the (then) new automatic ticket barriers. Enraged, he collared a nearby ticket inspector and ranted, "What are you playing at with these bloody machines? They never work, they cost a fortune, the public don't like them, your own unions don't like them and the Fire Brigade hate them because they're a fire hazard. Well?"
To which the uniformed employee replied, "Well, write a f**king song about it then!"
 
A perfectionist to the bitter end, Lee Mavers, maverick frontman of The La's (pronounced Lars, for the benefit of former British colonialists, or their offspring), was having a spot of bother in the recording studio one day while trying to recreate an authentic 60's sound. He'd already insisted on shipping in a vintage Abbey Road mixing desk, as previously used by The Beatles, but something just wasn't right. Finally, Lee thought that he'd put his finger on the problem. "It's the valves in the desk," he told the studio manager. " They're too new - we need to find some old '60's valves. "
After days of frantic searching, some original valves were finally tracked down in a warehouse in Germany and freighted over. The recording commenced all over again, but still it was not right. Days passed and then Lee announced he'd solved the problem: "The valves are OK, but they need some dust, they're too clean. They don't have original 60's dust on them, la.”
 
In 1973, an exasperated Nik Turner (saxophonist with Hawkwind) trampled in rage on his horn after spending a long time on-stage trying to squeeze a single note out of the recalcitrant instrument. It was only then that he remembered he had stuffed it full of illegal substances in order to get through customs unharassed.
 
Also in 1973, Tangerine Dream signed to the Virgin Label and recorded “Phaedra”. Virgin advertised the album in the music press of the time with the image of a vinyl record that was melting, with strands of molten plastic dripping from its edges, under the heading “Music that Melts”. To officially launch the album, Virgin organised a press conference – cum – party at a venue in London. The centrepiece of the event was an actual 12” album that had been heated up, with molten plastic hanging from its edges, copying the press ads. When drinks were served, one music hack took a closer look at the distorted LP, and noticed that it was an existing album with a Virgin label stuck on top. The hack then peeled off the Virgin label, revealing the original album. It was “Islands” by King Crimson!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dean Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 21 2011 at 16:06

Can we keep this to Prog facts or we'll a) be over run with from trivia to trivial and b) I'll have to move this thread to the General Music section (and thus, off the home page)

 
 
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I heard that the Residents were friends with Captain Beefheart and Zappa in school. Not sure were I found this one, I'll search.

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Originally posted by thehallway thehallway wrote:

So at one point Yes could have consisted of:

Jon Anderson, Robert Fripp, Chris Squire, Phil Collins and Vangelis!
 
Wacko
I wonder if that would have been Prog heaven or hell?
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Originally posted by presdoug presdoug wrote:

Reminds me of hearing of  a Blue Cheer gig, where it was reported that a dog died.
                   And though not prog , when Blue Cheer played the Filmore West in late '68, things got so violent, what with band members and roadies literally throwing equipment at people in the audience, and it got totally out of control.
          After, the promoter banned Blue Cheer from playing the Filmore West.
             The Cheer were literally the loudest band in the world, and it was common practice at times for equipment to blow up due to the high volume, and the roadies would then replace it with new units, and crank it even further!
             When recording their second album in New York in 68, they destroyed the studio with their high volume, and recorded the rest of the record outside on a pier, being the only way they could finish it.

Ha ha ha!!  Back in the early '70's, I used to read every issue of "Circus" magazine...they wrote that Captain Beyond played a concert so loud, fans were waving white flags!!   It was one of the loudest ever apparently.  

My band Casual Crobar (we did Spinal Tap, Sabbath, originals, even a bit of Eno) was doing a sound check and it was deafening!  Some folks in the hall complained about the volume, so what else could we do, except to turn it up even louder?  Rock & roll!!  
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Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Originally posted by presdoug presdoug wrote:

Reminds me of hearing of  a Blue Cheer gig, where it was reported that a dog died.
                   And though not prog , when Blue Cheer played the Filmore West in late '68, things got so violent, what with band members and roadies literally throwing equipment at people in the audience, and it got totally out of control.
          After, the promoter banned Blue Cheer from playing the Filmore West.
             The Cheer were literally the loudest band in the world, and it was common practice at times for equipment to blow up due to the high volume, and the roadies would then replace it with new units, and crank it even further!
             When recording their second album in New York in 68, they destroyed the studio with their high volume, and recorded the rest of the record outside on a pier, being the only way they could finish it.

Ha ha ha!!  Back in the early '70's, I used to read every issue of "Circus" magazine...they wrote that Captain Beyond played a concert so loud, fans were waving white flags!!   It was one of the loudest ever apparently.  

My band Casual Crobar (we did Spinal Tap, Sabbath, originals, even a bit of Eno) was doing a sound check and it was deafening!  Some folks in the hall complained about the volume, so what else could we do, except to turn it up even louder?  Rock & roll!!  
In your experiences as a live musician, have you ever come north to play in Canada at any point?
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Originally posted by presdoug presdoug wrote:

 In your experiences as a live musician, have you ever come north to play in Canada at any point?

No, I was strictly local (even though I played for one of Fripp's Guitar Craft guitar students at one point).  I'd quite enjoy Canada!  

Back to Obscure Prog Facts.....according to Rick Wakeman, Yes was the inspiration for a famous scene from the movie "Spinal Tap"!!    See the link, it is full of all sorts of obscure Yes facts!!  (even Strawbs facts!)

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(Wakeman said):

There are people who think the film This Is Spinal Tap is simply a very funny 'mockumentary'. Well, with Yes we lived it.

Take the hilarious scene in the film in which the bass player is trapped in a giant pod - that actually happened to Alan one night.

It also occurred during the Tales From Topographic Oceans album tour. That was not my favourite Yes album and I said so at the time. Maturely, I renamed it Tales From Toby's Graphic Go-Kart.

The grandiose elements of Yes were spiralling out of all control and the stage set was unbelievable. It had been designed by Roger Dean, who had done the album cover, and reflected the record's artwork.

The drum kit was inside a giant seashell, which would open after the show started, revealing Alan doing his stuff. However, one night when the curtain went up the gearing jammed and he was trapped inside.

The problem was, it was a sealed unit, so Alan quickly began running out of air.

As this was live on stage in front of thousands of people, Alan, the consummate professional, continued playing. Meanwhile the roadies began trying to smash the pod open, staying out of the line of sight of the crowd so no one noticed.

Before long, they had to start pumping oxygen in until eventually, somehow, they prised the wretched thing open with pickaxes.

By now the audience must have noticed the rescue effort because as the pod sprang open a huge cheer went up, and Alan stumbled out gasping for breath.

Of course, back in the Seventies, audiences assumed that whatever happened on the stage was intentional.




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Originally posted by presdoug presdoug wrote:

Former guitarist/vocalist/songwriter Federico D'Andrea of the Italian prog band Libra was killed in 1978 by being run over by a car
That reminds me....   Electric Light Orchestra cellist Mike Edwards was killed when the van he was driving was run over by a bale of hay.
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 In the seventies, a high school in Ottawa, Canada invited PFM over to play a concert, and they did just that, flew over and played!
           Wish i would have been there (I happen to be from Ottawa, but did not know about it at the time)
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Originally posted by presdoug presdoug wrote:

Bassist/vocalist Johnny Gustafson of The Big Three, Quatermass, Hard Stuff, etc. recorded a solo album in 1975 that was not released initially. Angel Air has issued it more recently on cd, and it is called "Goose Grease", a nickname Gustafson gave for one of his mother's "homemade cold remedies"
Here's an obscure fact:  When Gustafson is mentioned in print, he's usually referred to as "John," not "Johnny."
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In his book "Larson's Book of Rock," preacher/exorcist Bob Larson  attacks at least three major prog works for leading the world's children to Satan:

Yes' Tales from Topographic Oceans: based on the Hindu Shastric scriptures, the album "promises to reveal 'the Science of God', the keys to reincarnation, and the tantric sexual rituals." Thumbs Up  

Steve Hackett's Voyage of the Acolyte: based on Hackett's musical interpretation of the Tarot cards.

Rush's Moving Pictures: contains the song "Witch Hunt," which is quite obviously (to the author, anyway) about seeking out witches to join them in their coven. LOL  (Never mind that Larson was doing exactly what the song actually rails against.)
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Bev Bevan ( drummer of ELO ) played drums on a Black Sabbath album that slips my memory right now. It wasnt one of Black Sabbaths best but.....
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote verslibre Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 31 2011 at 15:56
Originally posted by John McIntyre John McIntyre wrote:

In 1973, an exasperated Nik Turner (saxophonist with Hawkwind) trampled in rage on his horn after spending a long time on-stage trying to squeeze a single note out of the recalcitrant instrument. It was only then that he remembered he had stuffed it full of illegal substances in order to get through customs unharassed.
LOL!!!
 
Originally posted by John McIntyre John McIntyre wrote:

Also in 1973, Tangerine Dream signed to the Virgin Label and recorded “Phaedra”. Virgin advertised the album in the music press of the time with the image of a vinyl record that was melting, with strands of molten plastic dripping from its edges, under the heading “Music that Melts”. To officially launch the album, Virgin organised a press conference – cum – party at a venue in London. The centrepiece of the event was an actual 12” album that had been heated up, with molten plastic hanging from its edges, copying the press ads. When drinks were served, one music hack took a closer look at the distorted LP, and noticed that it was an existing album with a Virgin label stuck on top. The hack then peeled off the Virgin label, revealing the original album. It was “Islands” by King Crimson!
 
Interesting. I'm a Crimfan, but I just lstened to Phaedra this morning (halfway through Rubycon at this moment) and I do prefer it to Islands. Apples and oranges, tho.
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