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    Posted: July 18 2011 at 04:50
Originally posted by catfood03 catfood03 wrote:

Originally posted by dreadpirateroberts dreadpirateroberts wrote:

Originally posted by catfood03 catfood03 wrote:

Well, this is one of the worst for me...



just two albums later... California is one of my all-time faves!


California is one of my all-timers too - but I do enjoy the manic nature of 'Self Titled' - is it all the juvenile stuff between (and during) songs that ruin it for you? Or something else? Keen to see what you think


I find that kind of juvenile humor amusing actually, and the audio clips that are sprinkled throughout is an element of the album I do like. Part of the problem for me is due to Mike Patton, because he was using his higher-registered, "bratty" singing mostly, just as he did on Faith No More's The Real Thing around the same time (early 90's). Plus, the songs on Mr.Bungle seem to be trying a bit too hard to be weird and crazy (if that makes any sense). It might be all a bit too much for my ears now than when I was much younger, when I had a more favorable opinion of it.

I like how the band "matured" and Patton's singing became more dynamic since (as well as in latter FNM albums and his newer solo works, too).

In case you're wondering I think Disco Volante is a great record (it splits the difference between the debut and California). If I gave it more thought I'm sure I'd think of a worse album on Progressive Archives than this one, but it was the first to pop into mind.

Thanks for your interest in my opinion.

catfood03, that was a nice and intelligent way of explaining an opinion for your personal "worst album on PA". You focused more on the positives than the negatives, and didn't insult the people who might consider it a great album. Refreshing. Clap   
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 17 2011 at 14:26
As briefly mentioned previously, this one is among the worst. Relatively nice cover art though.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 17 2011 at 14:04
First I would like to point out that I hate the ELP albums as "Tarkus", "Trilogy" and "Brain Salad Surgery". For me, albums like this represent the worst of progressive rock. But surely there are far worse albums out there that they, and the amount of positive reviews for them to prevent me from saying that they are the worst in the site (but each with their opinion). Also, my journey into progressive rock is just beginning. From all I've heard the worst is definitely the premiere of Genesis. Even the album's 80 years has more to offer than he.

About the forum, is the same as many others: people begin to express your opinion, arerudely confronted by others and fight back even more crudely, creating unnecessary discussions. Where is the freedom of expression? If each standing what you think aboutthis or that album, so good, but ... to imagine that someone will answer my opinion (or not ...)

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Thanks for posting that sentence tupan! It's good to see that there is another progger who likes  "El Chavo del Ocho"!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 11 2011 at 11:29
It's a trick question, all of them.  You want good albums, go to jazzmusicarchives.com.  And don't confuse me by mentioning that there are some albums present on both sites.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 11 2011 at 07:44
Beauborg by Vangelis sounds awful to me and I'm a Vangelis fan.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 10 2011 at 19:56
Well, I haven't changed my mind about Mr. Bungle (the album), but I do love that some were passionate enough to jump in and defend it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 10 2011 at 10:45
Originally posted by catfood03 catfood03 wrote:

Originally posted by dreadpirateroberts dreadpirateroberts wrote:

Originally posted by catfood03 catfood03 wrote:

Well, this is one of the worst for me...



just two albums later... California is one of my all-time faves!


California is one of my all-timers too - but I do enjoy the manic nature of 'Self Titled' - is it all the juvenile stuff between (and during) songs that ruin it for you? Or something else? Keen to see what you think


I find that kind of juvenile humor amusing actually, and the audio clips that are sprinkled throughout is an element of the album I do like. Part of the problem for me is due to Mike Patton, because he was using his higher-registered, "bratty" singing mostly, just as he did on Faith No More's The Real Thing around the same time (early 90's). Plus, the songs on Mr.Bungle seem to be trying a bit too hard to be weird and crazy (if that makes any sense). It might be all a bit too much for my ears now than when I was much younger, when I had a more favorable opinion of it.

I like how the band "matured" and Patton's singing became more dynamic since (as well as in latter FNM albums and his newer solo works, too).

In case you're wondering I think Disco Volante is a great record (it splits the difference between the debut and California). If I gave it more thought I'm sure I'd think of a worse album on Progressive Archives than this one, but it was the first to pop into mind.

Thanks for your interest in my opinion.


I have to admit I love the Mario Bros bits, and the Mr Bungle dialogue is funny. And now that I think about it, I suppose I even like the Blue Velvet sound bytes. Adds bit more creepiness to the album. I though that 'Suqeeze Me Macaroni' tries pretty hard, and even the bridge area of 'My Ass is On Fire.'

Yeah, the bratt-voice can wear thin too. I always enjoy Angel Dust more from FNM because of, as you say, the new dynamic he begins bringing in. And I was gonna ask about Disco which I love too, more scattered than self titled, but it has a charming unfocused feel.

Originally posted by Negoba Negoba wrote:

I think all three are masterpieces, and it is a tribute to their genius how different they are. They were kids still, really, for the first album, and it's a juvenile delight. I don't listen to it much now, but it was so revolutionary for its time.
 
I need to review California....


That's a great point, they were pretty young, then, huh? And I know it destroys anything I could have managed at that age! Yeah, me too California is a triumph.

Originally posted by avantgrind avantgrind wrote:

all three have their charms imo


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I think all three are masterpieces, and it is a tribute to their genius how different they are. They were kids still, really, for the first album, and it's a juvenile delight. I don't listen to it much now, but it was so revolutionary for its time.
 
I need to review California....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 09 2011 at 23:38
Originally posted by dreadpirateroberts dreadpirateroberts wrote:

Originally posted by catfood03 catfood03 wrote:

Well, this is one of the worst for me...



just two albums later... California is one of my all-time faves!


California is one of my all-timers too - but I do enjoy the manic nature of 'Self Titled' - is it all the juvenile stuff between (and during) songs that ruin it for you? Or something else? Keen to see what you think


I find that kind of juvenile humor amusing actually, and the audio clips that are sprinkled throughout is an element of the album I do like. Part of the problem for me is due to Mike Patton, because he was using his higher-registered, "bratty" singing mostly, just as he did on Faith No More's The Real Thing around the same time (early 90's). Plus, the songs on Mr.Bungle seem to be trying a bit too hard to be weird and crazy (if that makes any sense). It might be all a bit too much for my ears now than when I was much younger, when I had a more favorable opinion of it.

I like how the band "matured" and Patton's singing became more dynamic since (as well as in latter FNM albums and his newer solo works, too).

In case you're wondering I think Disco Volante is a great record (it splits the difference between the debut and California). If I gave it more thought I'm sure I'd think of a worse album on Progressive Archives than this one, but it was the first to pop into mind.

Thanks for your interest in my opinion.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 09 2011 at 21:16
Originally posted by catfood03 catfood03 wrote:

Well, this is one of the worst for me...



just two albums later... California is one of my all-time faves!


California is one of my all-timers too - but I do enjoy the manic nature of 'Self Titled' - is it all the juvenile stuff between (and during) songs that ruin it for you? Or something else? Keen to see what you think
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 09 2011 at 14:50
Well, this is one of the worst for me...



just two albums later... California is one of my all-time faves!
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Originally posted by Conor Fynes Conor Fynes wrote:

Well the new Queensryche Dedicated To Chaos is much less enjoyable than their covers album, but that's just me.......
 
The little I sampled of it was awful. And I love old Queensryche

And I even like stuff like Mindcrime II, but the album this time is not only radio rock, but mediocre radio rock at that. Their old stuff is incredible, so it makes the disappointment sting even more.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 09 2011 at 10:52
Originally posted by Conor Fynes Conor Fynes wrote:

Well the new Queensryche Dedicated To Chaos is much less enjoyable than their covers album, but that's just me.......
 
The little I sampled of it was awful. And I love old Queensryche
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 09 2011 at 10:28
Originally posted by Warthur Warthur wrote:

I'm sure Rick has released enough bad albums that we can all pick a different one to use as coasters.

I mean, he's put out plenty good stuff too. But I don't think anyone here will deny that he could have done with being a bit more selective about what he released over the years.
Rock N Roll Prophet is special though.  Not only is it thoroughly bad material, but Rick goes the extra mile and supplies his own vocals.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 09 2011 at 01:59
Well the new Queensryche Dedicated To Chaos is much less enjoyable than their covers album, but that's just me.......
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 08 2011 at 22:19
haha Screaming Gorilla. I thought they were a noise group.
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Originally posted by Slaughternalia Slaughternalia wrote:

I agree that Musical taste is subjective, but I simply have a hard time believing that people legitimately enjoy this. Finding it interesting? Sure I could see that. But at the end of the day, It's pretty much just a mess of avant-garde w**kery with no structure or composition. And I mean no disrespect to Beefheart, i actually enjoy Safe As Milk to an extent, but I stand by my choice of words. Trout Mask Replica is retarded.
 
Well as far as I know this is entirely composed, Beefheart teaching the parts and  insisting they be played exactly as written.
 
Though anticipation keeps us coming back to a piece of music, a lot of the music we listen to, is, to a greater or lesser extent, predictable on the first listen and holds few real surprises. Perhaps he was trying to subvert that - no, I'm sure he was (here and on much of his music).  I do think it suffers on the CD format - being much easier to absorb over four sides.
 
It never seems to get stale, it might be sh*t, but never stale sh*t.
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