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Negoba ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: July 24 2008 Location: Big Muddy Status: Offline Points: 5210 |
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I wasn't mocking. Some people do, in fact, listen to certain music simply as a component of a personality and image they are creating for themselves. Some folks do this with reasonable intentions. But you can dive so deep that you lose touch with reality.
Leng Tche is at the far end of the spectrum at so many levels that making it work would have been a collossal achievement. The fact that the subject matter itself is on the extremes of human cruelty means that the piece is going to have to prove itself to me that it has earned drawing me in to a realm so dark. I don't want to be tortured personally. If there is something to be gained by exploring that piece of human experience, I'm willing to think about it.
And you must realize that if you say "I personally like representations of the extremes of human cruelty" some eyebrows are going to go up.
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You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all.
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rushfan4 ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 22 2007 Location: Michigan, U.S. Status: Offline Points: 66582 |
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It kind of does want to make me hear it just to judge for myself how bad it really is. My luck, I'd probably like it.
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Padraic ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 16 2006 Location: Pennsylvania Status: Offline Points: 31169 |
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Tony R's review of it is priceless ![]() |
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Triceratopsoil ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 03 2010 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 18016 |
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That's quite the album art, too ![]() |
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cannon ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 03 2010 Location: Coho Country Status: Offline Points: 1302 |
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Here's a album that's really bad:
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harmonium.ro ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: August 18 2008 Location: Anna Calvi Status: Offline Points: 22989 |
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I like Load and Reload
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Triceratopsoil ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 03 2010 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 18016 |
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I won't
![]() although I'd in most cases take neither. Edited by Triceratopsoil - July 06 2011 at 12:44 |
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stonebeard ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 27 2005 Location: NE Indiana Status: Offline Points: 28057 |
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I'll take "Until it Sleeps" over tin-can, 9-minute dirges.
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thellama73 ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 29 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 8368 |
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I don't like Naked City. Based on all the reviews and descriptions and comparisons I've read about it, I SHOULD like it. But I just don't. |
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Triceratopsoil ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 03 2010 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 18016 |
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It's definitely not as bad as Garage Inc. or either of the Load albums. |
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A Person ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 10 2008 Location: __ Status: Offline Points: 65760 |
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Fwiw, Leng Tch'e is easily the best Naked City album I've heard.
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Henry Plainview ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 26 2008 Location: Declined Status: Offline Points: 16715 |
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The emperor's new clothes is an incredibly stupid and deeply offensive metaphor to apply to music (well, probably anything, to be honest, but that's a different topic). Where people got the idea that it's OK to claim that someone else must be lying when they like something you don't is beyond me. And I've always thought the story was more about even the rich and powerful emperor being scammed because of his vanity than the common people playing along because they're afraid of him, but whatever... And I'm not terribly familiar with Naked City, but I find most of their output rather dull except for Leng T'che, but I'm a noise hipster.
Yeah, it's just lazy bandwagoning. I don't even like Metallica, but I'm willing to defend them on this one because everyone only jumps to that one because it was such a high profile release. Edited by Henry Plainview - July 06 2011 at 12:16 |
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if you own a sodastream i hate you
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Triceratopsoil ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 03 2010 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 18016 |
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Your opinion isn't rendered any more potent by mocking the tastes of others. |
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Guldbamsen ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin Joined: January 22 2009 Location: Magic Theatre Status: Offline Points: 23104 |
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^I totally agree with you.
Edited by Guldbamsen - July 06 2011 at 11:57 |
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Negoba ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: July 24 2008 Location: Big Muddy Status: Offline Points: 5210 |
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There are 8 ratings (now that you've added yours). 2 of the 5 star raters are active in this conversation, and the 2 1 star reviewers are active in this thread. Please don't pull out statistics when the N is so small and you're actively manipulating them.
If it works for you, go ahead and listen to it. That album sat unreviewed for a very long time before I put up my opinion. I personally think it's emperor's new clothes. People trying to fake being cool by pretending to like the most aversive music they can find.
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You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all.
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dreadpirateroberts ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 27 2011 Location: AU Status: Offline Points: 952 |
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It was an interesting read for me, if only to see how some of the 'other side' think. And of course, what a predictable list of bands to interview, of course most of them are going to trash classic albums. And with, for the most part, some stunningly simplistic and shallow analysis at that. Shouldn't really call some of those 'interviews' 'analysis' either, really. Still, I do agree that 'Pet Sounds' had a few songs that didn't blow me away, along with some stunners. |
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We are men of action. Lies do not become us.
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Tapfret ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: August 12 2007 Location: Bryant, Wa Status: Offline Points: 8608 |
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So true. DSotM just got overplayed. And LA Woman nearly made my list.
Hating St. Anger was the cool thing to do. I heard all the bashing and thought it had to be even worse than the 90's Metallica albums. When I finally heard it 2 years later I was reminded again of how much people who try to be cool piss me off. Especially when they jump on a bashwagon. By no means is it a masterpiece, but I enjoyed it. |
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Triceratopsoil ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 03 2010 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 18016 |
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The fact that 43% of the ratings for that album are 5* seems to suggest that this is just your opinion. |
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Guldbamsen ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin Joined: January 22 2009 Location: Magic Theatre Status: Offline Points: 23104 |
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Well everybody´s entitled to their opinion, but music will always be subjective. As long as they´ll let me have my fun with Trout Mask, Dark Side, Pet Sounds and L. A. Woman. I happen to enjoy all of those. I don´t really get why Trout Mask is in there, because unlike all of the others mentioned - it never, and I do mean never gets any airplay, unless you´re plugged into some sort of obscure internet radio. All the others might suffer from serious overplay, not Trout Mask. I think it says more about these musicians, and their tastes if anything. They have probably never liked it, but jumped on the hipster train and all the fabulous reviews alongside the majestic position it sits at after Rolling Stone mentioned it as one of the most important rock albums of all time.
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Horizons ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: January 20 2011 Location: Somewhere Else Status: Offline Points: 16952 |
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This thread is so silly.
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