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el böthy ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: April 27 2005 Location: Argentina Status: Offline Points: 6336 |
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I kinda agree with you on this, but only when it comes to Opeth. They are my favorite metal band and the ones wh turned me into growling. Still, it does sound good and I´m hoping to be proven wrong!
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dreadpirateroberts ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 27 2011 Location: AU Status: Offline Points: 952 |
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Disappointed that the power of Mikael's DM vocals will be gone, but we'll get some powerful stuff in other departments, I bet. Some awesome riffs, interesting structures and a band relaxing and playing something they want to play.
Overall, sounds ace, I'm struggling to wait for September. |
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darkshade ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: November 19 2005 Location: New Jersey Status: Offline Points: 10964 |
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It's interesting to see an album cover like this is showing some
people's true colors regarding their acceptance with a change in a
band's sound or attitude. It's funny because I remember when Damnation came out, it wasn't such a big controversy.
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dreadpirateroberts ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 27 2011 Location: AU Status: Offline Points: 952 |
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Yeah, I agree. It seems as though it's often the case that as fans, we feel a kind of disturbing ownership of a band, and that we feel any perceived betrayal of Form/Direction/Change in a highly personal way. On one hand, at least we love the band/music enough to commit to some emotional investment. On the other, I imagine it's far more respectful toward the band to relax, sit back and see where they take you, and be happy for them for trying new things, for challenging themselves and doing something they want to do. |
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darkshade ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: November 19 2005 Location: New Jersey Status: Offline Points: 10964 |
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I think it's great what they're doing. I, for example, haven't cared for the band much since around 2006, and I used to be a big fan of their music. My tastes changed dramatically, and even when Watershed came out, I was ho-hum about it. This has recaptured my interest, and I can see why MA has decided to do what he wants to do. I respect him for that. |
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dreadpirateroberts ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 27 2011 Location: AU Status: Offline Points: 952 |
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Yeah. I have less favourites on Watershed than say, 'Ghost' or 'Blackwater' and am really interested to hear this one, and even the cover and the tiny amount of info we have has really sparked my interest too. |
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Henry Plainview ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 26 2008 Location: Declined Status: Offline Points: 16715 |
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I think people complaining about the cover are complaining about it because it's a bad cover. |
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if you own a sodastream i hate you
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darkshade ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: November 19 2005 Location: New Jersey Status: Offline Points: 10964 |
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I wasnt talking about the cover itself (which is what sparked this thread), but what MA and the journalist said describing the music. |
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Stoned420 ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: July 19 2010 Location: Chicago Status: Offline Points: 25 |
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This isn't remotely surprising. I'm really looking forward to this but at the same time, I agree with the couple other people about being disappointed that there will be no harsh vocals. For me it's not a matter of being closed minded, it's just a matter of LOVING his harsh vocals, and so the notion that he might continue down this path is worrisome, not because the music will be bad, because that's doubtful, but because I might not be able to hear new great death metal from Opeth again. /run on sentence
With that being said, if the next 5 or 10 albums Opeth puts out have no harsh vocals, I'm sure they will be great and that I will continue to purchase said albums, assume Opeth's passion is behind it. |
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harmonium.ro ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: August 18 2008 Location: Anna Calvi Status: Offline Points: 22989 |
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harmonium.ro ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: August 18 2008 Location: Anna Calvi Status: Offline Points: 22989 |
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Now you growl instead of speaking? ![]() ![]() |
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sleeper ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: October 09 2005 Location: Entropia Status: Offline Points: 16449 |
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![]() Sounds like its going to be a good album. The description makes me think of what Pain of Salvation have been doing with Road Salt, and since I really like that album I've got high hopes that Opeth can pull it off quite well too. |
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Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005
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Negoba ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: July 24 2008 Location: Big Muddy Status: Offline Points: 5210 |
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Opeth's Damnation album was one of the things that brought me to this site. After immersing myself in lots of prog, it's not as powerful for me as it once was, but it's a fantastic album. I've learned to tolerate harsh vocals, even appreciate them when well placed, and Mikael is indeed one of the best at growls. Clearly, if Black Sabbath is an obvious sound on the album, this isn't going to be Damnation 2. I'm looking forward to hearing somethign NEW from the band.
People were making light of Opeth's composition formula, but alot of their riffs also follow a certain pattern rhythmically and harmonically, which was initially uniquely Opeth, but there's only so many variations you can do. And with other bands copying the style, I can understand the need for Mikael to try something new.
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dreadpirateroberts ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 27 2011 Location: AU Status: Offline Points: 952 |
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Hey Negoba, great point - as soon as you put a sound out there that is distinctive enough to survive, it invariably becomes susceptible to the 'thinning out' process that happens when other bands imitate or incorporate that sound into their own albums. So yes indeed, probably good thinking of Mikael try and take Opeth somewhere different. |
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el böthy ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: April 27 2005 Location: Argentina Status: Offline Points: 6336 |
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Dellinger ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: June 18 2009 Location: Mexico Status: Offline Points: 12810 |
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I'm really interested in this new album. I have come to enjoy some Opeth, but I don't really like growling, and so far haven't come to understand all this love towards Opeth's growling... I have heard some other bands that use growling, and I find Opeth's ones even less tolerable than other's... I guess that's the reason I have come to enjoy Wathershed quiet a bit. As for Damnation, I found it too soft, and so far haven't come to like it so much, I would have liked it to have some metal. As for the album cover, I do find it somewhat good... though a bit disturbing.
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moe_blunts ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: February 18 2008 Location: Austin, TX Status: Offline Points: 617 |
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![]() The album cover is LOL! Are the band member's heads supposed to be forbidden fruit? Temptation? Is listening to Opeth the first and original sin? If so, I'm going to hell. Looking forward to the album. Edited by moe_blunts - June 05 2011 at 12:20 |
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(De)progressive ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 24 2010 Location: Turkey Status: Offline Points: 495 |
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Can't wait to hear it. Damnation was no masterpiece if we think it as a prog rock album, but it was the closest thing a by a progressive death metal band. It was a milestone in music, as well as Tiamat's Wildhoney. I loved Watershed also, but this album feels like a coming suprise which will have a shock effect on our face.
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''Hope is the first step on the road to dissapointment.'' (Friedrich Nietzsche)
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Fyrus ![]() Forum Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: January 13 2011 Location: US Status: Offline Points: 44 |
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Am I one of the few that thought Damnation was one of Opeth's weaker albums?
And I am in no way a fan of death metal and such... Opeth is the only band with growling I can stand :p Damnation just didn't seem like Opeth... I don't think this new album will be like Damnation though, seems to be different. |
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Tapfret ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: August 12 2007 Location: Bryant, Wa Status: Offline Points: 8614 |
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I'm already amused. This will be Opeth's St. Anger. Regardless of it being good/bad/different whatever, it will be the "its cool to bash Opeth" album. Hell, just the cover has people frothing at the mouth. Let the dog pile begin.
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