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Man With Hat
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Jazz-Rock/Fusion/Canterbury Team
Joined: March 12 2005
Location: Neurotica
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Posted: May 13 2011 at 14:15 |
Fish in pretty much every way possible.
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Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect.
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jean-marie
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Joined: July 27 2010
Location: FRANCE
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Points: 2585
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Posted: May 13 2011 at 13:41 |
Hogarth by far now , as well music as vocal, since last year it's kind of new discover with Marillion, love this band more and more, got most of their albums
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octopus-4
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RIO/Avant/Zeuhl,Neo & Post/Math Teams
Joined: October 31 2006
Location: Italy
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Points: 14122
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Posted: May 13 2011 at 13:04 |
Fish
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I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution
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Mellotron Storm
Prog Reviewer
Joined: August 27 2006
Location: The Beach
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Points: 13522
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Posted: May 13 2011 at 12:41 |
I do prefer Fish's vocals but i like Hogarth too. Both know how to create emotion even though they sing very differently from one another. "Season's End" i think is a great example of Hogarth's vocal talent.
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"The wind is slowly tearing her apart"
"Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN
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The T
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Joined: October 16 2006
Location: FL, USA
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Points: 17493
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Posted: May 13 2011 at 12:31 |
Snow Dog wrote:
If I want to listen to a Peter Gabriel sound-alike, I'll listen to Peter Gabriel.
Doesn't even begin to make sense! Peter Gabriel is a sound alike of Peter Gabriel? |
If I want to listen to a person-with-sinus-problems sound-alike, I'll listen to Steve Hogarth.
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Progosopher
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Joined: May 12 2009
Location: Coolwood
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Posted: May 13 2011 at 12:18 |
Even though the Fish era of Marillion has passed ages ago, and the band has evolved since then, I always prefer that era to the Hogarth one. I find Fish a much more engaging vocalist (along with the rest of the music), especially with his rococco inflections. This is not to say that Hogarth does not have a good set of pipes. He does.
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The world of sound is certainly capable of infinite variety and, were our sense developed, of infinite extensions. -- George Santayana, "The Sense of Beauty"
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lazland
Prog Reviewer
Joined: October 28 2008
Location: Wales
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Points: 13634
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Posted: May 13 2011 at 12:16 |
I saw the band for the first time in The Marquee, just as Market Square Heroes was being released. I fell in love straight away, and Fish era has provided me with many happy memories. I NEVER thought he would ever be replaced.
That is until King Of Sunset Town came blasting out of the speakers when Seasons End was released, the beauty of Easter, and a great gig following in Wolverhampton.
I was hooked, and Hogarth era band is responsible for genuine classics of the genre. I think the man is a genius, and I would place him above Fish any day of the week, as much as I love the big guy.
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Snow Dog
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Joined: March 23 2005
Location: Caerdydd
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Posted: May 13 2011 at 12:06 |
If I want to listen to a Peter Gabriel sound-alike, I'll listen to Peter Gabriel.
Doesn't even begin to make sense! Peter Gabriel is a sound alike of Peter Gabriel?
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jmatos
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Joined: April 29 2011
Location: Puerto Rico
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Points: 45
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Posted: May 13 2011 at 12:01 |
I would have to go with H, his voice and lyrics are incredible. If I want to listen to a Peter Gabriel sound-alike, I'll listen to Peter Gabriel. But that's just my opinion.
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rdtprog
Special Collaborator
Heavy, RPI, Symph, JR/F Canterbury Teams
Joined: April 04 2009
Location: Mtl, QC
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Points: 5285
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Posted: May 13 2011 at 12:00 |
the ETERNAL answer : Fish
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akamaisondufromage
Forum Senior Member
VIP Member
Joined: May 16 2009
Location: Blighty
Status: Offline
Points: 6797
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Posted: May 13 2011 at 11:56 |
How many surrealists does it take to change the lightbulb?
Fish!
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Help me I'm falling!
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The T
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Joined: October 16 2006
Location: FL, USA
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Posted: May 13 2011 at 11:40 |
Hogarth has given this fan one really great album (Brave) and one good one (Marbles), everything else has been bordering on disaster and the singer is one of the main reasons why, with his quiet, breakable voice that lacks depth...
Fish has given this fan Misplaced Childhood, Fugazi and Clutching at Straws, plues the other one I just can't love. His lyrics are great and his voice memorable...
Easy choice.
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Pietro Otello Romano
Forum Senior Member
Joined: April 22 2011
Location: London
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Points: 112
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Posted: May 13 2011 at 11:24 |
stonebeard wrote:
They are two different kinds of artists, whose worth with Marillion I enjoy equally. Perhaps Hogarth because there's more of his work to appreciate. After 1990 Fish has gone straight downhill, though, both as a singer and a songwriter.
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They are definitively two different kind of Bands too, and thogth I prefer the Fish era, the new Marillion are an excellent band that I really enjoy too. When Fish left the band I was worry of an other Genesis syndrome, but they not only renew the style in a positive way, they create a new one that is already inspiring new band such as Gazpacho.
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"We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful
what we pretend to be."
Mother Night - Kurt Vonnegut
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Triceratopsoil
Forum Senior Member
Joined: April 03 2010
Location: Canada
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Points: 18016
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Posted: May 13 2011 at 11:23 |
no comment
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stonebeard
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Joined: May 27 2005
Location: NE Indiana
Status: Offline
Points: 28057
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Posted: May 13 2011 at 11:13 |
They are two different kinds of artists, whose worth with Marillion I enjoy equally. Perhaps Hogarth because there's more of his work to appreciate. After 1990 Fish has gone straight downhill, though, both as a singer and a songwriter.
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digdug
Forum Senior Member
Joined: July 13 2005
Location: Canada
Status: Offline
Points: 4707
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Posted: May 13 2011 at 10:51 |
Fish
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Prog On!
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Slartibartfast
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Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam
Joined: April 29 2006
Location: Atlantais
Status: Offline
Points: 29630
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Posted: May 13 2011 at 10:49 |
Lynx33 wrote:
Who is the one?
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That entirely depends on the one what. If you like Marillion each has their own place in their own time. I am impressed at the devotion and evolution of the other musicians in the band.
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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rogerthat
Prog Reviewer
Joined: September 03 2006
Location: .
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Points: 9869
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Posted: May 13 2011 at 10:30 |
Snow Dog wrote:
I barely like Marillion really, but Hogarth sends me to sleep, so it will have to be the other guy. |
I love Fish Marillion but definitely agree with the second part.
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Harold-The-Barrel
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Joined: November 05 2010
Location: Dublin, Ireland
Status: Offline
Points: 659
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Posted: May 13 2011 at 10:21 |
If you had asked when Fish left the band if he could ever be replaced I'd have said absolutely not, as it turns out they got a genius (Ice cream one?) in Hogarth to replace him, lyrically maybe he's not as interesting but he is still a fantastic talent and he's proved it by making Marillion an even better band today, argue the fact all you likebut its the truth...
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You must be joking.....Take a running jump......
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Snow Dog
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Joined: March 23 2005
Location: Caerdydd
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Points: 32995
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Posted: May 13 2011 at 10:19 |
I barely like Marillion really, but Hogarth sends me to sleep, so it will have to be the other guy.
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