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Points: 1474 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 19 2011 at 03:17
Originally posted by BenevolentBehemoth BenevolentBehemoth wrote:

Soft Machine Volume Two.



Why not volume one?
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I always thought it was The Moody Blues Days Of Future Past
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Lots of bands were scratching towards sunlight. But it took King Crimson to open the curtains.
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The first and best prog album is "Nevermind," by Nirvana.
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Points: 1474 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 19 2011 at 21:39
Well, there's only one Nirvana on progarchives and it's not the one you mentioned. ;)

The funny thing though is that after the american Nirvana broke up and after Kurt's suicide the English Nirvana put out an album after a long hiatus and did a cover version of "lithium." Pretty funny. :D
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Points: 65602 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 19 2011 at 21:45
Originally posted by Barking Weasel Barking Weasel wrote:

The first and best prog album is "Nevermind," by Nirvana.


that's exactly the thing a barking weasel would say
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Points: 22989 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 19 2011 at 21:49
There is no album #1 according to PA, but there is a #2. I happen to disagree with that one. 
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Points: 1474 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 19 2011 at 21:51
Originally posted by giselle giselle wrote:

Lots of bands were scratching towards sunlight. But it took King Crimson to open the curtains.


Not a bad analogy but I always thought of it like a lot of bands were knocking on the door and turning the door knob and starting to open up the door but King Crimson kicked the door down with their debut. ;)

KC's court may have been the first true official prog album but there were certainly albums before it that were progressive for their time.
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Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

There is no album #1 according to PA, but there is a #2. I happen to disagree with that one. 


What are you referring to? They don't go by order only by highest ranking according to popularity but I don't think that's what this thread is about. I'm confused now. LOL. Confused
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Points: 65602 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 19 2011 at 22:08
 y'know Tull's Stand Up - a highly prog album - was released over two months before KC's debut, and Yes came out a few days before that.   I'll go you one further; it could be argued the "first true prog album" came after KC's debut, for example a record such as Trespass much more closely resembles what would soon be known as prog rock than In the Court.
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Points: 22989 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 19 2011 at 22:16
Originally posted by Prog_Traveller Prog_Traveller wrote:

Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

There is no album #1 according to PA, but there is a #2. I happen to disagree with that one. 


What are you referring to? They don't go by order only by highest ranking according to popularity but I don't think that's what this thread is about. I'm confused now. LOL. Confused


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Sorry, still confused. Could you please be a little more specific. I see Foxtrot is number two but number two at what?
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Points: 1474 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 20 2011 at 02:13
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

 y'know Tull's Stand Up - a highly prog album - was released over two months before KC's debut, and Yes came out a few days before that.   I'll go you one further; it could be argued the "first true prog album" came after KC's debut, for example a record such as Trespass much more closely resembles what would soon be known as prog rock than In the Court.



Maybe but I personally would substitute Trespass for the first ELP album although I like both quite a bit.
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Originally posted by Prog_Traveller Prog_Traveller wrote:

Sorry, still confused. Could you please be a little more specific. I see Foxtrot is number two but number two at what?
Every album in the PA is indexed by an ID number allocated sequentially at the time the album is added to the database. Foxtrot's ID is #2, implying it was the second album to be listed here.
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Points: 34083 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 20 2011 at 18:16
what about David Bowies album Space Oddity, that is also a early 69 progressive album that paved away for many bands
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Where do you stop with this kind of logic? Of course many roads led to King Crimson, but that was the point where a genre - this genre - was defined.
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Points: 32995 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 21 2011 at 03:58
Originally posted by giselle giselle wrote:

Where do you stop with this kind of logic? Of course many roads led to King Crimson, but that was the point where a genre - this genre - was defined.

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Points: 525 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 21 2011 at 16:16
Originally posted by Barking Weasel Barking Weasel wrote:

The first and best prog album is "Nevermind," by Nirvana.
Hilarious. Red was grunge before Cobain reached puberty.
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Points: 2157 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 22 2011 at 09:42
Originally posted by giselle giselle wrote:

Where do you stop with this kind of logic? Of course many roads led to King Crimson, but that was the point where a genre - this genre - was defined.
 
Established as an album genre, but established as track/song genre long before.
 
In terms of ideation, conceptualization, development and realization, the genre was well-established long before In the Court, but in terms of commercialization, In the Court was the breakthrough for prog as an album genre.
 
In the court brought prog into full operation.
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