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Posted: April 03 2011 at 14:47
Bj maybe but not more than the TH. The main disappointment for me with the band is that they were supposed to be some sort of groovy psychedelic band but most of their stuff over the years was waaay too country. I've been to a couple of shows before JG died and compared to all the prog greats I was left wondering what the big deal was. Guess I needed to do LSD, which may explain things. If you're tripping on acid you need something to mellow you out before you totally freak out. Cool t-shirts though. and I do like Terrapin Station. But most of the rest I can leave behind. Maybe I just haven't heard the really good stuff yet....
Edited by Slartibartfast - April 03 2011 at 14:52
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Posted: April 03 2011 at 15:00
Evolver wrote:
I must disagree about the TH.
Poor singing, simplistic songwriting.
Good production.
Not prog at all.
Depends on what you're looking at. Interesting that you liked production which is pretty much not something I pay attention to. First and foremost is is the music good? For me it is a firm yes from more songs thru remain ,but wait, weren't we talking about cherry jerry gracious? "Not prog at all" depends on how you define it. Some of us are big tenters and some of us are narrow.
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Posted: April 03 2011 at 18:36
I've said it before and I'll say it again; when they were on, they were among the finest live rock acts in the world, and the finest of the bands that had stayed together so long
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Posted: April 03 2011 at 18:42
Originally posted by Clarke2001
I would rather like to see PA database expanded to include certain artists:
1.) Prog-psych-hard rock-jam bands of early 70's ('proto' after 'proto prog' period) 2.) Avant-pop complex artists of new wave/no-wave period 3.) World fusion 4.) Some electronica (IDM in Warp Records style and similar granular textures) 5.) some classical Heavy Metal which borrows from classical prog - multi-part long compositions, bass solos etc. (Helloween, even Manowar, but not Running Wild) 6.) perhaps neo-classical gothic music 7.) prog-related needs EXPANSION (there's a good reason why - I'll elaborate why if anyone insists)
By adding these, we would not open the flood gates - a huge mass of ProgArchives will simply relocate its barycenter a bit.
I think it might take for this to happen before you'll see the Dead here.
And as Andy said above, for Prog Related you'll need the support of a SC and a very strong argument in favour. If you check the numerous previous threads suggesting Grateful Dead you'll see that they have a lot of SC support. However, with over 130 albums to plough through to find the best music examples (and many of those albums are double or triple CDs!) that's a massive undertaking.
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Posted: April 03 2011 at 18:57
^ but it wouldn't require someone to listen to all that, just certain albums. Further, it would be the slightly over 20 releases in their lifetime that would be important to add to PA, not the endless list of compilations, boxsets, and Dick's Picks or other fan releases (though those could also be added over time by anyone who wanted)
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Posted: April 04 2011 at 01:36
As everybody knows, Psychedelia was one of the most important social and artistic movements in the History of 20th century. Music, visual arts, poetry, movies, clothes fashion, everything have been changed with Psychedelia. The bands have no need to record a few hit singles before a debut album anymore. Illustrators, photographers and graphic designers get absolutly freedom to make the album jackets on the way what they liked to do. After Psychodelia alot of things were possible, including that great British Progrock movement. So, The Dead as an essential part of that 60s Psychedelia movement aswell, would be add as Proto Prog act too..
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Posted: December 31 2016 at 07:22
The Grateful Dead were every bit as innovative and "progressive" as Jefferson Airplane, for instance. If Jefferson Airplane belongs here, so does the Dead.
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