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ClemofNazareth View Drop Down

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Posted: March 25 2011 at 16:53

Chris S wrote:

I think this thread is in dire straits....if those so motivated cannot nominate then its a no brainer...LOL

I just posted a proposal to the Admins.....

"Peace is the only battle worth waging."

Albert Camus

octopus-4

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Posted: March 27 2011 at 16:06

richardh wrote:

TheLionOfPrague wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=57779&PN=1
http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8551&PN=1
http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22063&title=dire-strates-poll
http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=75965&PID=4059728

And then some.

"Telegraph Road" is a nice long song. Nice long songs are not necessarily progressive.

I know they're not 100% progressive, but they are more progressive than some bands that do appear in PA, like Black Sabbath.

Sorry but I totally disagree.

Sabotage IS PROG. So I disagree, too. Then if we want to look for discutible inclusions, those mentioned by Snow Dog at the beginning of the thread are enough, IMO.

Regarding this thread, I don't hear anything prog in Dire Straits. It's probably the best pop of the 80s but not prog.

I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution

ClemofNazareth View Drop Down

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Posted: March 27 2011 at 19:40

octopus-4 wrote:

Regarding this thread, I don't hear anything prog in Dire Straits. It's probably the best pop of the 80s but not prog.

I believe the recommendation here is for Prog-related. Prog-related is not prog.

"Peace is the only battle worth waging."

Albert Camus

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Posted: March 27 2011 at 23:10

ClemofNazareth wrote:

octopus-4 wrote:

Regarding this thread, I don't hear anything prog in Dire Straits. It's probably the best pop of the 80s but not prog.

I believe the recommendation here is for Prog-related. Prog-related is not prog.

Neither a relationship. However it's just my opinion.

I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution

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Posted: March 29 2011 at 10:56

Just to make the X & Y thing clear.

I do offcourse agree with the if X is Heavy metal, then Y is Heavy metal too.

Not the if Black S. is Progressive Dire S. is progressive too, they are hardly the most comparable bands,

taken, style, time, and a lot of other stuff into consideration.

As said before, they should be progressive in there own right. If they are not, no reason to include them just because you think other bands do not deserve to be here either.

Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours

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Posted: March 30 2011 at 10:40

Actually if I remember the little logic I once learned then Tamijo is right ! The if X then Y is not a valid logical argument.

And, I realy like early DS (especialy Communiquq, Making movies and Love over gold) and I think ther are a nice blues-rock band although "Romeo and Juliet" is more a broken heart song than a love song.

However, we should draw the line somewhere and I think DS is on the other side of that line. Of corse nothing will happen if they get included but if we continue this way logicaly we will come to the point where Olivia Newton John will be proposed (and as Tamijo tried to say gently, this is a nightmare !).

omri