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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 21 2011 at 17:27
Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

...but while on BandCamp don't forget to pick up the latest from Epignosis......oh wait, we are still waiting.


I have to work all the time. Unhappy


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 21 2011 at 17:27
oh, and sorry to say that because we missed the deadline for physical that delays amazon and cdbaby (which delays itunes) as well.  My bad!   verrrrrry bad indeed.  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 21 2011 at 17:28
Originally posted by The Truth The Truth wrote:

Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by The Truth The Truth wrote:

Oh Rob. For a second there I thought you weren't kidding. Beatdown was almost eminent. Stern Smile LOL


Well damn, if I knew a ass-kicking was in order, I wouldn't have written up this one-star review after hearing the album one time.  Tongue
 
You best be kidding. *slaps back of hand* 


DON'T f**k WITH ME.

-Phideaux.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 21 2011 at 17:32
Originally posted by Phideaux Phideaux wrote:

Epi, how could you spill the beans on our secret plan???  I hope you didn't listen with your tinfoil hat on!  You might have accidentally bypassed the subliminal messages of devotion and blind acceptance!


Seems to work for soap operas.  Tongue
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 21 2011 at 17:36
Where do you think I get my information.  We've done vast experiments on mind control!  I hope in your review you will at least say it was 1½ but you had to round down for some reason or other.  It will be too embarassing otherwise!  [meanwhile, I will have to consult my notes to see how to strengthen the narcotizing brain tones]
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 21 2011 at 17:38

Just purchased off bandcamp.

I'm a Days Of Our Lives watcher, sorry Xavier. Tongue
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 21 2011 at 17:42
Originally posted by Phideaux Phideaux wrote:

Where do you think I get my information.  We've done vast experiments on mind control!  I hope in your review you will at least say it was 1½ but you had to round down for some reason or other.  It will be too embarassing otherwise!  [meanwhile, I will have to consult my notes to see how to strengthen the narcotizing brain tones]


LOL

Seriously, upon first hearing, the first track was absolutely incredible, the second was really good, but I wasn't crazy about the third.  The keyboard work in the first track was hot, yo- HOT!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 21 2011 at 17:50
You're suffering from Thick As A Brick side two disorder.  But, you're not alone in saying that about part two.  Of course, what I was going for was a long slow disintegration before the music returns.  Who can know what to make of any piece of music when you make it.  This album grew around itself and expanded.  I knew that I wanted to have a long section where the music would meander and get lost in a maze of haze.  However, I do understand what you mean because whereas the first seems like a straight line that can only go in that direction, the second is more of a lazy susan of themes and was described by someone else as a mish mash.  Now, as the maker of the music, I don't see it that way, but I totally understand how it's seen to be that. 

For myself, I find that I might lose my path a bit in the part two.  However, that was a bit of the intention.  But also, I'm SOOOOOOOOOOO involved in hyper "orchestrating" bit that I wanted a long section that was all about the chords.  So the immediate start of part two is just a cycle of chords that I just wanted to get lost in -- with no orchestration or very little.  My music is often described as being a bit static and controlled, not a lot of life.  So, some of my experimentation is to let things develop in more raw ways.  But, what you must remember is "blah blah blah"  Folks talking about their music is probably only of interest to the trainspotters and their identical twins.

(oh, and Truth -- I quite enjoy Days as well.  In fact the only soap I have not worked on is Bold & Beautiful...)

Meanwhile, Epignosis, thanks for taking a listen. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 21 2011 at 17:52

Is the two minute track at the end really titled with just a period? LOL

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 21 2011 at 17:57
hahaha, you are correct, Truth.  That's the "title"
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 21 2011 at 17:57
Originally posted by Phideaux Phideaux wrote:

You're suffering from Thick As A Brick side two disorder.  But, you're not alone in saying that about part two.  Of course, what I was going for was a long slow disintegration before the music returns.  Who can know what to make of any piece of music when you make it.  This album grew around itself and expanded.  I knew that I wanted to have a long section where the music would meander and get lost in a maze of haze.  However, I do understand what you mean because whereas the first seems like a straight line that can only go in that direction, the second is more of a lazy susan of themes and was described by someone else as a mish mash.  Now, as the maker of the music, I don't see it that way, but I totally understand how it's seen to be that. 

For myself, I find that I might lose my path a bit in the part two.  However, that was a bit of the intention.  But also, I'm SOOOOOOOOOOO involved in hyper "orchestrating" bit that I wanted a long section that was all about the chords.  So the immediate start of part two is just a cycle of chords that I just wanted to get lost in -- with no orchestration or very little.  My music is often described as being a bit static and controlled, not a lot of life.  So, some of my experimentation is to let things develop in more raw ways.  But, what you must remember is "blah blah blah"  Folks talking about their music is probably only of interest to the trainspotters and their identical twins.



Oooh!

Makes me curious.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 21 2011 at 18:00
Originally posted by Phideaux Phideaux wrote:

You're suffering from Thick As A Brick side two disorder.  But, you're not alone in saying that about part two.  Of course, what I was going for was a long slow disintegration before the music returns.  Who can know what to make of any piece of music when you make it.  This album grew around itself and expanded.  I knew that I wanted to have a long section where the music would meander and get lost in a maze of haze.  However, I do understand what you mean because whereas the first seems like a straight line that can only go in that direction, the second is more of a lazy susan of themes and was described by someone else as a mish mash.  Now, as the maker of the music, I don't see it that way, but I totally understand how it's seen to be that. 

For myself, I find that I might lose my path a bit in the part two.  However, that was a bit of the intention.  But also, I'm SOOOOOOOOOOO involved in hyper "orchestrating" bit that I wanted a long section that was all about the chords.  So the immediate start of part two is just a cycle of chords that I just wanted to get lost in -- with no orchestration or very little.  My music is often described as being a bit static and controlled, not a lot of life.  So, some of my experimentation is to let things develop in more raw ways.  But, what you must remember is "blah blah blah"  Folks talking about their music is probably only of interest to the trainspotters and their identical twins.

(oh, and Truth -- I quite enjoy Days as well.  In fact the only soap I have not worked on is Bold & Beautiful...)

Meanwhile, Epignosis, thanks for taking a listen. 


No need to explain or defend anything man- it was one listen, and first listens aren't worth much at all.  Lately I have been finding myself saying, "I did not like x at first (and this with regard to whole albums!), but now- WOW."

The first track caught my interest (and held it for 20 minutes!) immediately.  The second is great.  All of it will require more listening to digest, especially the third track (and you obviously know that) and if I still don't like it then, I'll say so.

As usual, you did a great job.  I know you're proud- as well you should be.

PS- I believe I like the second part of Thick as a Brick somewhat more than I do the first.  Wink


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hahaha, I used to HATE the second side of Thick, but now I really really like it.  Conversely, I always enjoyed Side 2 of Passion Play more (but now I love the whole thing).

Also, Epi, I am sorry if I gave you the impression that I was trying to defend the piece.  I was really just trying to explain where I was coming from with the whole thing and acknowledging that you are not alone in your summation of the track.   I will be curious if it will unlock when you've heard it a few more times.   I would expect you to say what you think about it. 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 21 2011 at 18:13
Originally posted by Phideaux Phideaux wrote:

oh, and sorry to say that because we missed the deadline for physical that delays amazon and cdbaby (which delays itunes) as well.  My bad!   verrrrrry bad indeed.  

Delayed to...? I'm fine with a few days but I would be very sad if it was something like a month LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 21 2011 at 18:14
probably a month by the time it gets to the proper channels.  I hope to get the CDs in 2.5 weeks and vinyl in month......
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 21 2011 at 18:20
Originally posted by Phideaux Phideaux wrote:

hahaha, I used to HATE the second side of Thick, but now I really really like it.  Conversely, I always enjoyed Side 2 of Passion Play more (but now I love the whole thing).

Also, Epi, I am sorry if I gave you the impression that I was trying to defend the piece.  I was really just trying to explain where I was coming from with the whole thing and acknowledging that you are not alone in your summation of the track.   I will be curious if it will unlock when you've heard it a few more times.   I would expect you to say what you think about it. 

Back to the salt mines for me...


Nothing I've ever heard of you has been genuinely disappointing (relatively speaking, I mean 313 is good, but Doomsday Afternoon tops it by a long shot), and there have been other things from varying artists that I didn't like after even after several listens but do now (in fact, your Number Seven is probably going to go from a 3 star to a 4 star just because it has really grown on me over the course of like a year).  That's why I take forever in reviewing most anything.

All I was saying was this: I'll probably grow to like the third track.  And if I don't, so what?  I'd still recommend the album because of the first two.

Bottom line: You make excellent music.

As for soaps, well...I'd have to ask my grandma about that one! Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 21 2011 at 18:22
You're doing GH right now, right? I watched some of it today, there was a bunch of crying in the minute I watched. LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 21 2011 at 18:24
Originally posted by Phideaux Phideaux wrote:

probably a month by the time it gets to the proper channels.  I hope to get the CDs in 2.5 weeks and vinyl in month......

Cry I have TesseracT and Protest the Hero to contend with this week anyway, so I'll survive LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 21 2011 at 18:29
hahaha, well remember Granny was once a hot little number who snared Grandpa!  She had to have had some good taste!

Having made several albums now it's actually interesting to see what people honestly think.  When I made the first, I was so caught up in it having to be perfect that I worried about the least little thing someone might say.  Now, I admit my own gripes with certain songs/sonics/artwork/etc.

So, I thank you for your kind compliments and they mean that much more because you are being honest.  My sister, who is my GREATEST and most LOYAL supporter (hmmm, she doesn't have an account on here...) now tells me when she doesn't love something.  She might not have done that as much when I was making my first album. 

But, it's all good and you can't please all of the people all of the time, as you well know from your own musical creations.   It's just important to please yourself.  I can now look back on various albums and realize the songs that irritate me, the ones I wished I'd been able to leave off!  Egads, there's a song on Number Seven that I just CANNOT STAND (more because of the quality of the recording, not the song itself...)

cheers and thanks for all the fish.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 21 2011 at 18:39
Originally posted by Phideaux Phideaux wrote:

hahaha, well remember Granny was once a hot little number who snared Grandpa!  She had to have had some good taste!

Having made several albums now it's actually interesting to see what people honestly think.  When I made the first, I was so caught up in it having to be perfect that I worried about the least little thing someone might say.  Now, I admit my own gripes with certain songs/sonics/artwork/etc.

So, I thank you for your kind compliments and they mean that much more because you are being honest.  My sister, who is my GREATEST and most LOYAL supporter (hmmm, she doesn't have an account on here...) now tells me when she doesn't love something.  She might not have done that as much when I was making my first album. 

But, it's all good and you can't please all of the people all of the time, as you well know from your own musical creations.   It's just important to please yourself.  I can now look back on various albums and realize the songs that irritate me, the ones I wished I'd been able to leave off!  Egads, there's a song on Number Seven that I just CANNOT STAND (more because of the quality of the recording, not the song itself...)

cheers and thanks for all the fish.


Actually, the only thing I know of my maternal grandpa was that he was an a****le.  LOL

Phideaux, take it easy tonight and enjoy yourself.  You done good.  I probably won't review your album for months, but that's just me.  And by the way, I'm fixing many things on Still the Waters and putting it on Bandcamp- the benefit of experience and all that.  Then I'll put the new album on there.


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