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someone_else ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: May 02 2008 Location: Going Bananas Status: Offline Points: 24660 |
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It is rather hard to perform the right queries on Jon Anderson or Peter Hammill since much has been written about them here on PA, but you can click here to view the poll.
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bucka001 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 16 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 864 |
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Certainly I respect that you like JA better, and I think the majority of the planet would agree with you! Otherwise, VdGG would have been a lot more successful (I've tried to turn several people onto VdGG over the years and, while they liked the music enough, they couldn't get past his vocals, at least the gruffness from Godbluff on [people are generally okay with the earlier, less harsh Hammill style]).
But you used the word 'power' and, even if you hate the sound of his voice, there's no denying that PH can belt it out stronger and in a way that JA (and, indeed, most singers) could never hope to match. Hammill has inspired, and can more than match, the best of several classic heavy metal and punk legends (Bruce Dickenson from Iron Maiden, Rob Halford from J. Priest, etc). Doesn't mean that you'll like the sound of it, but there's no denying the balls-out raw power behind it (I can't imagine JA, or Peter Gabriel, Ian Anderson, etc, singing any of the harsher songs on Nadir's Big Chance or Vital - if you're not familiar with those albums, don't get them as you'll probably loathe them, but rest assured that 'power' is not something lacking in those albums). In no way is Jon Anderson a more 'powerful' singer than Peter Hammill, unless your using the word to describe your experience of listening to JA, i.e. a 'powerful' experience.
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boo boo ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: June 28 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 905 |
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I think Anderson III defines the word "powerful" in a different way than you. I think he means Jon has the more poignant voice or that he has more resonance.
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Zombywoof ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: November 26 2009 Status: Offline Points: 1217 |
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Thanks for showing me! That poll is from before I joined, so it's no wonder I didn't realize it existed. It's funny that I didn't find it, though, since I searched the exact name of the poll! |
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Continue the prog discussion here: http://zombyprog.proboards.com/index.cgi ...
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Pekka ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 03 2006 Location: Espoo, Finland Status: Offline Points: 6457 |
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A little known fact is that the actual forum search engine is a piece of crap compared to the search on the PA front page. Just change the option from "site" to "forum" and you'll find whatever you're looking for. ![]() |
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Anirml ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 20 2008 Location: Denmark Status: Offline Points: 377 |
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Am I the only one who thinks the lyrics of Yes are amazing? I don't think they are weird at all.
If you really understand Yes, they can make more sense than the best lyrics Genesisis have made (I love Genesis as well as Yes). Some of you guys can't think very abstract. Btw I absolutely hated Jon's voice for ca. 2 years ago. Then I listened to Close to the Edge (title track) and understood how wrong i was (you have to understand Yes, to enjoy them). Edited by Anirml - May 28 2010 at 17:13 |
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boo boo ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: June 28 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 905 |
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Yeah, Jon's lyrics aren't THAT cryptic, they are intentionally ambigious and I personally love that technique because that way it's really all about the music and you can interpret the lyrics in various ways to get whatever kind of imagery you have going on in your head. That's the great thing about those kinds of lyrics IMO.
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Anirml ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 20 2008 Location: Denmark Status: Offline Points: 377 |
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TrevRockOne ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 17 2008 Location: New York Status: Offline Points: 112 |
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VdGG and YES are my 2 favorite bands, and for totally different reasons, so it's hard for me to compare, but Peter Hammill is my favorite single musician of the singer/songwriter ilk; whereas Jon Anderson needs Steve Howe by his side to make me feel the magic. I voted for Hammill.
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DisgruntledPorcupine ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 16 2010 Location: Thunder Bay CAN Status: Offline Points: 4395 |
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Definitely Hammill. Jon's lyrics just sound weak and have no power at all compared to Hammill.
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BaldJean ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: May 28 2005 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 10387 |
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anyone who thinks Hammill is only the shouter and not capable of expressing soft things should think again. there are lots of counterexamples; albums like "Fireships" or "And Close as This" are full of them, but by far not the only ones where Hammill sings with a pure and clean and, yes, beautiful voice.
here an example from "Fireships": Edited by BaldJean - May 30 2010 at 12:13 |
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Kojak ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 03 2010 Status: Offline Points: 264 |
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Me too, I hate lyrics like, 'It's grim up North blah, blah,' etc. Just no imagination. No romance. |
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Sacred 22 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 24 2006 Status: Offline Points: 1509 |
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I think Peter Hammill is the stronger singer of the two but I prefer the Yes sound to that of VDGG. Both have a very unique style all on to themselves which is nice and then this leads to taste in the listener. I'm not a fan of Anderson's solo stuff and the later Yes stuff has been rather preachy getting away from his roots as a prog composer. I guess his membership to the O.T.O. has influenced many of his attitudes over the years and I guess he feels he is getting that much closer to the 'light' (enlightenment).
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Anderson III ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 25 2007 Location: Finland Status: Offline Points: 708 |
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First of all, I really don't like Dickinson nor Halford at all, so Hammill is actually much closer to my liking than these singers. And man, in all sincerity I believe Hammill's belting is seriously lacking some power! ![]() People seem to find it hard to believe I think Anderson often gives a powerful performance! In "Eclipse", "Awaken" and "The Revealing Science of God" i.e. I find a lot of power, and I don't care if you don't. It's not "raw power", but call it "the power of love"! ![]() BTW, head over here: http://www.kayodot.net/toby/LLLL.html Listen to Kandu vs. Corky and then come up to me and say Hammill's singing has "raw power"... |
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"Music expresses that which cannot be put into words and cannot remain silent" - Victor Hugo
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rikkinadir ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: March 09 2011 Status: Offline Points: 38 |
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It's out of question... PETER HAMMILL of course!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Harold-The-Barrel ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 05 2010 Location: Dublin, Ireland Status: Offline Points: 659 |
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Love both but Hammill gets my vote
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You must be joking.....Take a running jump......
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MonsterMagnet ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 31 2010 Location: Liège, Belgium Status: Offline Points: 561 |
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I prefer Hammil all the same
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DisgruntledPorcupine ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 16 2010 Location: Thunder Bay CAN Status: Offline Points: 4395 |
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Prog Geo ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 09 2010 Location: Athens (Greece) Status: Offline Points: 2555 |
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Hammill!
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Icarium ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: March 21 2008 Location: Tigerstaden Status: Offline Points: 34086 |
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this guy in his prime beat them both with one song
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