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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Finnforest Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 08 2011 at 08:00
No it's nothing to do with PA, its the opinion of another RPI writer.  Just an alternate opinion from those of us who usually give our lists here!Smile
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Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

Ital-prog's classic-era top 20, just for kicks.  While every top 20 would be different, and I know many of my favorites are missing, there's no doubt great stuff here! 
This would be an awfully good starting list for the RPI noob.  Thumbs Up


  1. Zarathustra (1973) - Museo Rosenbach
  2. Banco del Mutuo Soccorso (1972) - Banco del Mutuo Soccorso
  3. Storia di un minuto (1972) - Premiata Forneria Marconi
  4. Alphataurus (1973) - Alphataurus
  5. Biglietto per l'Inferno (1974) - Biglietto per l'Inferno
  6. Campo di Marte (1973) - Campo di Marte
  7. Io non so da dove vengo... (1973) - De De Lind
  8. DNA (1972) - Jumbo
  9. Inferno (1973) - Metamorfosi
  10. Quella Vecchia Locanda (1972) - Quella Vecchia Locanda
  11. Uno (1971) - Panna Fredda
  12. Melos (1973) - Cervello
  13. Fede speranza e carità (1972) - Jet
  14. L'Uovo di Colombo (1973) - L'Uovo di Colombo
  15. Collage (1971) - Le Orme
  16. Palepoli (1973) - Osanna
  17. Ys (1972) - Balletto di Bronzo
  18. Arbeit macht frei (1973) - Area
  19. Maxophone (1975) - Maxophone
  20. Intorno alla mia cattiva educazione (1974) - Alusa Fallax
    L'apprendista (1977) - Stormy Six


Is that made from the P.A ratings or did you choose it? It's a good list either way, i think i have around half of them so maybe i should explore the ones i don't
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Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

Ital-prog's classic-era top 20, just for kicks.  While every top 20 would be different, and I know many of my favorites are missing, there's no doubt great stuff here! 
This would be an awfully good starting list for the RPI noob.  Thumbs Up


  1. Zarathustra (1973) - Museo Rosenbach
  2. Banco del Mutuo Soccorso (1972) - Banco del Mutuo Soccorso
  3. Storia di un minuto (1972) - Premiata Forneria Marconi
  4. Alphataurus (1973) - Alphataurus
  5. Biglietto per l'Inferno (1974) - Biglietto per l'Inferno
  6. Campo di Marte (1973) - Campo di Marte
  7. Io non so da dove vengo... (1973) - De De Lind
  8. DNA (1972) - Jumbo
  9. Inferno (1973) - Metamorfosi
  10. Quella Vecchia Locanda (1972) - Quella Vecchia Locanda
  11. Uno (1971) - Panna Fredda
  12. Melos (1973) - Cervello
  13. Fede speranza e carità (1972) - Jet
  14. L'Uovo di Colombo (1973) - L'Uovo di Colombo
  15. Collage (1971) - Le Orme
  16. Palepoli (1973) - Osanna
  17. Ys (1972) - Balletto di Bronzo
  18. Arbeit macht frei (1973) - Area
  19. Maxophone (1975) - Maxophone
  20. Intorno alla mia cattiva educazione (1974) - Alusa Fallax
    L'apprendista (1977) - Stormy Six



Very nice list.  I have yet to hear 7, 8, 13, 14, 15 (Embarrassed), and not sure about the 2 number 20 albums.  I have an Alusa Fallax album, but not sure which one off hand (have to check when I get home).  I think I've heard the Stormy Six, though I don't own it.

In any case, one through six are certainly part of my RPI top 20, without a doubt!  The rest are up there, at least.

* (edit)  I guess there is only one Alusa Fallax album, so obviously that is the one I have Embarrassed  Guess I need to give it another spin soon Smile




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Ital-prog's classic-era top 20, just for kicks.  While every top 20 would be different, and I know many of my favorites are missing, there's no doubt great stuff here! 
This would be an awfully good starting list for the RPI noob.  Thumbs Up


  1. Zarathustra (1973) - Museo Rosenbach
  2. Banco del Mutuo Soccorso (1972) - Banco del Mutuo Soccorso
  3. Storia di un minuto (1972) - Premiata Forneria Marconi
  4. Alphataurus (1973) - Alphataurus
  5. Biglietto per l'Inferno (1974) - Biglietto per l'Inferno
  6. Campo di Marte (1973) - Campo di Marte
  7. Io non so da dove vengo... (1973) - De De Lind
  8. DNA (1972) - Jumbo
  9. Inferno (1973) - Metamorfosi
  10. Quella Vecchia Locanda (1972) - Quella Vecchia Locanda
  11. Uno (1971) - Panna Fredda
  12. Melos (1973) - Cervello
  13. Fede speranza e carità (1972) - Jet
  14. L'Uovo di Colombo (1973) - L'Uovo di Colombo
  15. Collage (1971) - Le Orme
  16. Palepoli (1973) - Osanna
  17. Ys (1972) - Balletto di Bronzo
  18. Arbeit macht frei (1973) - Area
  19. Maxophone (1975) - Maxophone
  20. Intorno alla mia cattiva educazione (1974) - Alusa Fallax
    L'apprendista (1977) - Stormy Six

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Todd Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 07 2011 at 00:16
^^^^ Thanks guys for your kind words.  I found some good bio info on the unofficial Balletto website that is linked on the PA band page, and then more material from a book entitled "Il Balletto di Bronzo e l'Idea del Delirio Organizzato" by Gianmaria Consiglio.  I find that understanding the backstory of the albums often brings greater appreciation, and that sure happened with me and "Vero."  Jim, I agree about the picture--a perfect characterization.
 
Chris, nice Abissi Infiniti review!  That one has stumped me for quite some time.  I'll give it another spin with your perspective in mind.  I have seen that one pop on eBay a couple of times recently.
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^ Yes, I felt most of the reviews were good and true to the music but saying a record deserved a zero rating is just wrong and using the clone route to come to that conclusion is weak I believe. I think for a debut it was good and if they bring out more I would want to hear their evolution as a band. I am not a reviewer but as a reader of reviews I would rate the review as a 2, but I should shut up now and move on to some more music.
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^exactly right.  Not sure why the guy freaked out.  I think most people understand talking references or influences does not mean we are stating emphatically that band X = Area.  Doesn't mean they are bad because they aren't Area.

While everyone knows I get a bit over-enthusiastic about RPI, my take and I believe the others who mentioned Area were talking about the "spirit' of the music, the playfulness they possess.  We weren't saying they were clones.  


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Altare Thotemico....a nice solid debut and for the reviewer who wanted to give it a zero rating, I don't get it, no, they are not area quality but then just because they give a nod to area does not mean they have to compete does it. Like the playful attitude to the album and the vocals also are great.
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That is a GREAT and very fitting choice of photo for the bold Nero, loved it as soon as I saw it.  
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Many thanks Jim! The more I listen to it, the more I get into that album.

Todd, superb work... that's a great Leo Nero bio. Absolutely love that picture of him! Smile

 

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Chris, very good and useful review of one of those rarities that few of us own.  Clap

 Tunnel by ABISSI INFINITI album cover Studio Album, 1981

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Tunnel
Abissi Infiniti Rock Progressivo Italiano

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3 stars This album might have you wondering if you're actually listening to Il Volo in disguise as Abissi Infiniti share that band's propensity for lush and melodic light progressive music, albeit with even more of a pop sensibility. 'Nebbia Incantada' (Enchanted Fog) is probably the best example with its lyrical vocals, spiky guitar and electric piano. This song is also one of the more progressive on the album, the other notable one being 'Come Bambini di Sera' (Like Children in the Evening). If not exactly complex, these two songs at least have some semblance of multi-part structures to add interest.

The album's sole instrumental 'Spirale' (Spiral) sounds like a funky version of Yes while the remainder of the songs are pretty but nondescript ballads, mostly dominated by piano and Solina string-ensemble. Having said that if you look below the surface there is certainly a bit of depth, especially in the lyrics. For example the title-track is concerned with the pain and despair of social isolation. Although the protagonist is described as important and has the world in his hands he has no one to talk to, his friends are absent and he has no one waiting at home: 'you want to run away... you want to escape from your destiny, you see a tunnel.'

In case anyone was wondering about the connection between the generally soft dreamy music and the rather warlike artwork, a little explanation might be in order. Throughout the album the Italian lyrics refer to wizards, swords and bewitched lakes, and the lovely picture of 5th century Romano-British figures on the cover reinforces the conceptual feel. The album closes with a brace of tracks that are based on Arthurian legend, the first of which, 'Merlino' (Merlin), is inspired by the supposedly devil-begotten magician. 'La Grotta di Cristallo' (The Crystal Cave) then tells how Uther Pendragon conquered Tintagel Castle from Gorlois, Duke of Cornwall. And with the help of Merlin, Pendragon tricks Lady Igraine into sleeping with him and she conceives Arthur: 'Now alone in the cave you try the magical arts in the fire, that with mean deceit gave to King Pendragon, merry knight, a bride, Igraine, and caused the death of the traitor duke.'

'Tunnel' is an obscurity that will probably be of interest only to serious RPI collectors, and even then it might be quite far down the pecking order. However the vinyl copy is something of a rarity and Mellow Records are sold out of the CD, so it might be prudent to buy this one when you see it.




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Excellent work Todd Thumbs Up

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Great new addition by ToddClap


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Leo Nero biography
After the breakup of IL BALLETTO DI BRONZO in 1973, keyboardist Gianni Leone pursued a solo career under the name of LEO NERO. This resulted in two albums: the progressive "Vero" in 1977, and synth-pop-oriented "Monitor" in 1980.

Young keyboardist extraordinaire and mastermind behind Il Balletto di Bronzo's seminal 1972 work "Ys," Gianni Leone tried to pick up the pieces after the band imploded following the success of "Ys" and the resulting excesses. Intact for a short time as a duo, Leone and BALLETTO drummer Gianchi Stringa played live a few times in 1973, with Leone performing all the instrumental parts on his keyboards. This experience laid the groundwork for his solo career, for which he changed his moniker to Leo Nero.

Leone composed the songs for "Vero" in 1974, and most of the tracks were recorded in New York in 1975. The album wasn't released until 1977. As expected, the album is keyboard oriented, and Leone plays all the instruments. Although the album is nowhere near the magical frenetic contortions of "Ys," nevertheless this is a very good album, one that should please fans of the genre. "Vero" is a concept album, centered on the feelings of loneliness and fear that Leone felt after the dissolution of IL BALLETTO DI BRONZO. The entire album is filled with a melodic melancholy that never quite lifts. The compositions on the first half are in a more singer-songwriter style and could almost be considered as multiple parts of a longer work; in fact, several themes are repeated throughout the album. The second half is the more progressive part, with songs such as "Tastieri Isteriche," "Il Castello," "Una Gabbia Per Me," and "La Discesa Nel Cervello" that hearken back at least in spirit to "Ys," although certainly not reaching the same level.

After the release of "Vero," Leone veered in a commercial synth-pop direction. His second album, 1980?s "Monitor," is frankly of little interest to progressive fans. (His backing band for part of that album was called Optical Band, which gives the title to one of the pieces he continues to perform, "Optical Surf Beat.") He continued in this vein throughout the 1980s (as evidenced by some demos which were recently released).

However, in the 1990s Leone reentered the progressive scene, first by contributing to the wonderful album by DIVAE (1995) and then by reforming Il Balletto di Bronzo (himself being the only returning 1970s member, using the rhythm section from Divae). The 1996 live album from the reformed Balletto entitled "Trys" features not only the entire "Ys" album, but also several of the best Leo Nero pieces as well, this time performed with the band. In fact, the band continues today to play liberally from the Leone repertoire, whether from Leo Nero or Il Balletto di Bronzo. Thus the past and future of Leo Nero and Il Balletto di Bronzo are intertwined, both with the genius of Gianni Leone at the center.

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  Please note that I have added an Italian version of the Gan Eden interview just to prove that I have picked up some skills during my stay in Milan @ The Silvio Berlusconi's School Of Playboys.  

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I'm sorry you feel that way Mandi.  I believe the team does a good job carrying out our duties and voting based on what the sub definition and our experience dictates.  If you feel otherwise, you can always register a complaint with the Admin team. 
Last, this is not really the place for an evaluation dispute, so if you want to continue to discuss it, please move it to a PM. 
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Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

Originally posted by 1967/ 1976 1967/ 1976 wrote:

Which is your opinion about ENIMA (http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=63259&KW=enima&PID=3464837#3464837)?


Mandi, they were rejected back when you suggested them, don't know why I didn't record the decision in the suggestion thread.  I'll ask the newer team members to listen also and see if they agree.  I'll PM you about it. 


Not good for me. This decision isn't a good idea. Some similar bands are listed as RPI and in my opinion bands as Conqueror or Periferia del mondo are similar to Enima for style. And if these bands are in RPI also Enima is RPI. Because this is not case of "if X is RPI also Y is RPI". This is the case of RPI standards, for me.


This decision is not good for me and I don't agree with you!


P.s.: Suggestion thread not mention because the rejected motive!!!
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Originally posted by 1967/ 1976 1967/ 1976 wrote:

Which is your opinion about ENIMA (http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=63259&KW=enima&PID=3464837#3464837)?


Mandi, they were rejected back when you suggested them, don't know why I didn't record the decision in the suggestion thread.  I'll ask the newer team members to listen also and see if they agree.  I'll PM you about it. 
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Thank you Lizzy!  And I agree about Nuova Idea, great band!  Smile
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Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

I was recently asked for some ideas of RPI influenced or mixed with classical music, for a next step beyond RDM.  I figured I share my reply here in case others are interested.  Feel free to add your own ideas.

Of course nothing is quite like RDM.  But here's a few for RPI fans who like Classical music influence.  Of the classic bands, try Quella Vecchia Locanda, Capsicum Red, Latte Miele's debut is a must, and Paese dei Balocchi.  Special mention to Luciano Basso's first two albums.  On the darker, more sinister side, there is the gothic church organ suites of Jacula and also newcomer Three Monks.  In the more avant-garde corner there is Opus Avantra.  And finally of more modern titles, there is Armonite (with two electric lead violins and no guitar!), the modern symphonic of Greenwall, and the Le Orme influenced neo-prog outfit called Mindflower.  I hope this provides a few clues in the great music hunt!  Take care.  Smile

Three more goodies to look into. Thank you very much, Jim. :D
I would have also mentioned the two Concerto Grosso albums by New Trolls. I absolutely love them.
Btw, that Mr. E. Jones review and rating made me feel all warm and fuzzy inside. Nuova Idea need a bit more propagada.Wink
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Finnforest Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2011 at 14:42
Hmmm, I can't recall Mandi, but I'll do some digging and find out what happened.  Obviously we failed to report back in the suggest thread, something I always do now.  I'll check it out and let you know. 
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