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Originally posted by JD JD wrote:

Originally posted by The Quiet One The Quiet One wrote:

The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway and Quadrophenia for me.


Absofreakinlutly !! My choices exactly. In that very order.

Reverse the order and you've got mine, too. 
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Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

Originally posted by boo boo boo boo wrote:

I'm glad I'm not the only one who realises that Tales is a brilliant album wrongfully demonized by trendhopping idiots who get angry at things they don't understand.


it's f**kin' boring

But, how do you REALLY feel?  LOL

I love Tales sides 1, 2 and 4, and only now am getting into side 3 "The Ancient."  However, I can understand, it is something of an acquired taste for many.  

Glad folks have mentioned "Quadraphenia," I overlooked that one!  Excellent double album, and the concert I saw (1994?) was excellent as well!  

"Focus 3" is another good citation, thanks for remembering!
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In no order and excluding Live albums or compilations, because with Live albums, would have to mention at least 50.

  • The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway - Genesis
  • Tommy - The Who
  • Jesus Christ Superstar (Original Opera Version) - Andrew Lloyd Webber
  • 666 - Aphrodite's Child 
  • Revolutions - Magenta
  • Bitches Brew - Miles Davis
  • Quadrophenia - The Who
  • Focus 3 - Focus
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Originally posted by boo boo boo boo wrote:

I'm glad I'm not the only one who realises that Tales is a brilliant album wrongfully demonized by trendhopping idiots who get angry at things they don't understand.

Are you calling Rick Wakeman an idiot?

If I'm not wrong, he described the album as "A pile of drivel"

Why must you qualify anybody who disagree with you an idiot?

Is your taste so perfect and knowledge so vast that anybody who dares to think different has to be an idiot?

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Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

In no order and excluding Live albums or compilations, because with Live albums, would have to mention at least 50.

  • The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway - Genesis
  • Tommy - The Who
  • Jesus Christ Superstar (Original Opera Version) - Andrew Lloyd Webber
  • 666 - Aphrodite's Child 
  • Revolutions - Magenta
  • Bitches Brew - Miles Davis
  • Quadrophenia - The Who
  • Focus 3 - Focus
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OUTSTANDING list!  I forgot about "JC Superstar," Ian Gillian's vocals are just insane on that!  Thanks!  
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Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

Originally posted by boo boo boo boo wrote:

I'm glad I'm not the only one who realises that Tales is a brilliant album wrongfully demonized by trendhopping idiots who get angry at things they don't understand.


it's f**kin' boring
 
I think I am gradually veering away from the 'its f**king boring' opinion. Every listen gets me a bit nearer to appreciating it a bit more and I am beginning to see why many have a high regard for it.
It is a lot to take in and there are passages that just seem to amble along aimlessly but hey ho I can't think of anything that really compares to it.That in itself is a big positive.
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it's not even aimless, aimless is cool with me.  Just obnoxiously tedious
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Would be a near tie between Tales from Topagraphic Oceans and The Lamb.  The Lamb has more
incredible music but overall I like the feel of Tales better. 

On the topic, I think Einstein on the Beach by Philip Glass is a Five Disc Album....not sure how
long that thread would be, lol.  It would get my vote.
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A favorite - Harmonium L'heptade
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Originally posted by NecronCommander NecronCommander wrote:

First album that comes to mind is Lift Your Skinny Fists Like Antennas to Heaven.


...which I just happened to be listening to when I read this!
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Tales for Topographic Oceans for me, definitely.
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God Speed you Black Emperor -  "Lift Your Skinny Fists Like Antennas to Heaven"
The Beatles - "White Album"
Genesis - "The Lamb lies on Broadway"
In the Woods... - " Live at the Kaledonian Hall"
Frank Zappa - "Joe´s Garage"
Pink Floyd - "The Wall" - "Pulse"
Can - "Tago Mago"
George Harrison - "All things Must Pass"
Marillion - "Marbles"
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Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Originally posted by boo boo boo boo wrote:

I'm glad I'm not the only one who realises that Tales is a brilliant album wrongfully demonized by trendhopping idiots who get angry at things they don't understand.

Are you calling Rick Wakeman an idiot?

If I'm not wrong, he described the album as "A pile of drivel"

Why must you qualify anybody who disagree with you an idiot?

Is your taste so perfect and knowledge so vast that anybody who dares to think different has to be an idiot?

Iván




 
Yeah Wakeman isn't who I had in mind when I made that statement, and also considering some of the music he's made later in his career his word is by no means final. LOL
 
I think a huge reason Wakeman disliked that album is because his songwriting contributions had become very minimal compared to the previous albums, this was Jon and Steve's project, and they never disowned it.
 
 
Besides, my comment was referring to punk fans who ALWAYS reference this album whenever they rant about prog and how it's wrongly considered one of the worst prog albums only by people who know f*ck all about prog.
 
Way to completely miss the point of what I was saying, this is by no means your first time. It certainly won't be the last.


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Originally posted by boo boo boo boo wrote:

Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Originally posted by boo boo boo boo wrote:

I'm glad I'm not the only one who realises that Tales is a brilliant album wrongfully demonized by trendhopping idiots who get angry at things they don't understand.

Are you calling Rick Wakeman an idiot?

If I'm not wrong, he described the album as "A pile of drivel"

Why must you qualify anybody who disagree with you an idiot?

Is your taste so perfect and knowledge so vast that anybody who dares to think different has to be an idiot?

Iván




 
Yeah Wakeman isn't who I had in mind when I made that statement, and also considering some of the music he's made later in his career his word is by no means final. LOL
 
I think a huge reason Wakeman disliked that album is because his songwriting contributions had become very minimal compared to the previous albums, this was Jon and Steve's project, and they never disowned it.
 
 
Besides, my comment was referring to punk fans who ALWAYS reference this album whenever they rant about prog and how it's wrongly considered one of the worst prog albums only by people who know f*ck all about prog.
 
Way to completely miss the point of what I was saying, this is by no means your first time. It certainly won't be the last.

Well, I consider it a terrible album, with slightly over average  40 minutes of music,  and the rest if filler, so your expression also affects all of us who don't believe Tales is a brilliant album.

I reply to what you write, I can't read your mind about who you were referring ot who you claim you were referring.

About Wakeman: Yes he made less than brilliant albums due to a bad contract with A&M that forced him to release a series of albums in order to survive, but he created at least 10 masterpieces and 10 excellent albums, something with what most musicians can only dream.

Wakeman's comment was explained by him on a  Creem Interview: 


Quote WAKEMAN: I love Yes dearly, but I didn't enjoy Topographic Oceans. At the time I actually said it was an over-padded pile of shit. Those were the days when things were very black and white; we weren't mature enough to sit down and discuss things.
The truth of the matter is, I still don't like the album. There's a lot of very good things on it; there's some very good moments on it. But there's tons of padding. When we went in to do it, we had too much material for a single album. So you either made it into a double album—which means write a lot more stuff—or you just reduce the size and make it into a single album. The fact of life is, we went the wrong route and we didn't have any other material. So there was padding for days on it. And Yes had never done that and I really objected to it. Vehemently objected to it.



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I don't really think the contract obligation excuse is a complete justification. I think a failure (though I don't consisder Tales to be one) born out of sheer ambition is a hell of a lot more admirable than something lazily sh*t out to please record executives.
 
I love Wakeman, I really do. But Henry VIII aside his solo work doesn't really strike my fancy much. It comes off a bit too pomp for me without the other Yes guys spicing things up.
 
I won't pretend that Tales is flawless, I'm not too crazy about The Ancient, but I love the other 3 tracks very much.
 
60 minutes of awesomeness > 20 minutes of filler = fine by me.


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Originally posted by NecronCommander NecronCommander wrote:

First album that comes to mind is Lift Your Skinny Fists Like Antennas to Heaven.


good one, altough i think yanqui u.x.o. is even better. also bitches brew
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Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:



Originally posted by boo boo boo boo wrote:

Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Originally posted by boo boo boo boo wrote:

I'm glad I'm not the only one who realises that Tales is a brilliant album wrongfully demonized by trendhopping idiots who get angry at things they don't understand.


Are you calling Rick Wakeman an idiot?


If I'm not wrong, he described the album as "A pile of drivel"


Why must you qualify anybody who disagree with you an idiot?


Is your taste so perfect and knowledge so vast that anybody who dares to think different has to be an idiot?


Iván







 

Yeah Wakeman isn't who I had in mind when I made that statement, and also considering some of the music he's made later in his career his word is by no means final. LOL

 


I think a huge reason Wakeman disliked that album is because his songwriting contributions had become very minimal compared to the previous albums, this was Jon and Steve's project, and they never disowned it.

 

 

Besides, my comment was referring to punk fans who ALWAYS reference this album whenever they rant about prog and how it's wrongly considered one of the worst prog albums only by people who know f*ck all about prog.

 

Way to completely miss the point of what I was saying, this is by no means your first time. It certainly won't be the last.

Well, I consider it a terrible album, with slightly over average  40 minutes of music,  and the rest if filler, so your expression also affects all of us who don't believe Tales is a brilliant album.
I reply to what you write, I can't read your mind about who you were referring ot who you claim you were referring.
About Wakeman: Yes he made less than brilliant albums due to a bad contract with A&M that forced him to release a series of albums in order to survive, but he created at least 10 masterpieces and 10 excellent albums, something with what most musicians can only dream.
Wakeman's comment was explained by him on a  Creem Interview: 
Quote <span ="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; line-height: normal; font-size: medium; "><span ="Quote11" style="color: rgb210, 105, 30; font-size: 11px; font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; ">WAKEMAN:</span></span><span ="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; line-height: normal; font-size: medium; "><span ="Blk11" style="color: black; font-size: 11px; font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; "> I love Yes dearly, but I didn't enjoy Topographic Oceans. At the time I actually said it was an over-padded pile of shit. Those were the days when things were very black and white; we weren't mature enough to sit down and discuss things.</span></span><span ="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: normal; "><span ="Blk11"></span></span>
<span ="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; ">The truth of the matter is, I still don't like the album. There's a lot of very good things on it; there's some very good moments on it. But there's tons of padding. When we went in to do it, we had too much material for a single album. So you either made it into a double album—which means write a lot more stuff—or you just reduce the size and make it into a single album. The fact of life is, we went the wrong route and we didn't have any other material. So there was padding for days on it. And Yes had never done that and I really objected to it. Vehemently objected to it.</span>
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Out of curiosity, which are the Wakeman albums that you consider to be masterpieces and excellent?
I do like Wakeman a lot, and I would give more 5 star albums to him than to Yes themselves. And I do think he's done excellent albums after the 70's. At the very least "Out there" should be more widely noticed, as well as "Retro". And there's even some of his New Age stuff that I enjoy.
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