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Joined: December 27 2009
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Posted: May 24 2010 at 13:28
One thing, what about colour vinyls? I've bought a rare red reissue of ITCOTCK, but I think that the scratches are more often every time I listen to the vinyl (it's plastic). They have grown stronger after I (but REALLY softly) cleaned the vinyl with a tissue. Is there anything wrong with that, or is it the vinyl? I've done the same with my other "regular" vinyls but didn't damage them.
Joined: February 12 2011
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Posted: February 21 2011 at 07:49
AbrahamSapien wrote:
One thing, what about colour vinyls? I've bought a rare red reissue of ITCOTCK, but I think that the scratches are more often every time I listen to the vinyl (it's plastic). They have grown stronger after I (but REALLY softly) cleaned the vinyl with a tissue. Is there anything wrong with that, or is it the vinyl? I've done the same with my other "regular" vinyls but didn't damage them.
I would think that a dry [or even a wet] tissue [like Kleenex type tissue?] would/could leave tiny pieces of paper on the surface that would then get ground further into the grooves while your playing the record, causing surface noise. Try this;
I have a pile of square cloths cut from old sweatpants which have a nice soft texture that "gets into the grooves" so to speak. I use the outside as opposed to the inside which usually has a rougher, uneven texture. I spray some distilled water onto the cloth and wipe down the surface of the record. Once it's clean I wipe it with a dry cloth. For really dirty records I use a small amount of dishwashing liquid mixed with the water first. If clean labels are important then put something between your fingertips and the label while doing this because some labels are very sensitive to fingerprints. I usually put an old t-shirt on the table then put a new plastic album cover bag on top of that and then I place the LP on top of the bag.
Joined: March 26 2004
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Posted: February 23 2011 at 01:41
JLocke wrote:
paganinio wrote:
I've never heard anything on Vinyl and I don't care. Maybe it could sound better at times.
It doesn't. The handling of the mix itself is the only difference. If done properly, the CD will sound just as good if not better than the Vinyl. Well, except it will be missing all of the hiss, pops and ticks that many here call that ''warmer'', ''richer'' sound.
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Posted: February 23 2011 at 04:55
oliverstoned wrote:
JLocke wrote:
paganinio wrote:
I've never heard anything on Vinyl and I don't care. Maybe it could sound better at times.
It doesn't. The handling of the mix itself is the only difference. If done properly, the CD will sound just as good if not better than the Vinyl. Well, except it will be missing all of the hiss, pops and ticks that many here call that ''warmer'', ''richer'' sound.
You don't know what you're saying.
Speaking as someone who grew up on vinyl, so to speak, vinyl is, uh I hate to use this word, overrated. The album covers though...
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
Joined: March 26 2004
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Posted: February 23 2011 at 08:34
The walls of your house may be made with vinyls piles, it doesn't mean that you've heard a real/well-setted vynil deck playing a good condition vinyl on a good system (lot of conditions isn't it?).
Edited by oliverstoned - February 23 2011 at 13:31
Joined: May 01 2010
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Posted: February 23 2011 at 09:17
Vinyl cheap?
I would have saved myself a lot of money, had I chosen to buy CDs instead of vinyl. Using 200-1000$ on an LP is not uncommon.
Anyway, I strongly oppose to any digital manipulation of sound-signals. If you take good care, buy records in decent condition and have decent sound-reproduction devices, noise and crackles is not a problem. I'd not suggest buying some cheap USB record player (it's a horrible invention) - decide whether you'll go for vinyl or not, and, if positive, do yourself a favour and get some decent equipment - your ears will be grateful.
Rega Planar 2. Not too expensive, good for starters and a delight for the eye. Invest in decent stylus as well.
Joined: December 23 2009
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Posted: February 23 2011 at 15:54
AbrahamSapien wrote:
One thing, what about colour vinyls? I've bought a rare red reissue of ITCOTCK, but I think that the scratches are more often every time I listen to the vinyl (it's plastic). They have grown stronger after I (but REALLY softly) cleaned the vinyl with a tissue. Is there anything wrong with that, or is it the vinyl? I've done the same with my other "regular" vinyls but didn't damage them.
NEVER use tissue to clean/wipe vinyl!! Tissue is made with wood fibers, cellulose material, and will guarantee to scratch your vinyl, just like you should never use tissue to clean your eye glasses......you will scratch the lenses.
Joined: December 23 2009
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Posted: February 23 2011 at 16:10
Paravion wrote:
I'd not suggest buying some cheap USB record player (it's a horrible invention)
I have a USB turntable at it works amazing...so I don't understand these comments on USB turntables. The only difference is the soundcard is built into the turntable. And sure I am probably paying too much for the soundcard and I can use my laptop sound card just as easy, but its a convenience issue for me, I have tons of vinyl.
I do agree, the $99 ION USB turntables are garbage, because they are a plastic base. The high-end Stantons are pretty good but I think over priced.
I have the AudioTechnica LP120....one of the best direct-drive models I have ever owned. It weighs in at 23lbs, very stable die-cast aluminum and comes with the ATP2x cartridge which by itself sells for about $130.00.....That's where the awesome sound for vinyl comes from.
If you are not interested in converting vinyl to digital then I agree, stay away from the USB models....but there are a couple good ones out there. This LP120 is better than a Denon turntable I had years ago.
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