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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 09 2011 at 22:34
like i sayed i like PA as a resource but the claim to being "the ultamate discography" is a bit overstated
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 09 2011 at 22:36
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 10 2011 at 00:09
Minus The Bear one of my favourite recent findings but I came to the conclusion they are not crossover, as did other team members. I would rather label them as " Power Pop"
 
Don't know any of the others.
 
Oh, I am an Indie Fan too but it does not necessarily = crossoverWink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 10 2011 at 02:48
Foals could be considered progressive at times, although I'd say that their truly progressive songs are in the minority (Spanish Sahara, Red Socks Pugie and Black Gold come to mind).

This Town Needs Guns have a stronger case, and I think they'd fit nicely in crossover, having heard all of their material. They've got a fair amount of innovative instrumentation and some other considerably proggy behaviours on some tracks (Lemur, If I Sit Still Maybe I'll Get Out Of Here, 26 Is Dancier Than 4, Japanese Ultra-Violence in D-Minor, Rabbit) . At the same time, they do seem to mostly be a clever math-pop band more than a prog group as a whole, similarly to Foals.

I definitely think that they could both fit here, although it's down to the judgement of the Xover team. Just my 2 cents.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 10 2011 at 17:41

Obviously foals and Minus the Bear are a little less obvious choices but I definately see no reason why This Town Needs Guns is meeting so much resistance.

 
and why does everyone hate Marnie Stern? she is an obvious choice for Math Rock... perhaps the Avant team is more openminded now that Xover and Post/Math have made it clear shes a no go?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 10 2011 at 18:08
I checked out This Town Needs Guns a while back, and they struck me as pretty typical math-rock (albeit pretty boring math-rock).

Still, whilst we're discussing the burgeoning math-pop scene, I'd like to humbly suggest Everything Everything and Dutch Uncles are both worthy of consideration.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 10 2011 at 18:13
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I can't believe I havn't heard of Evrything Everything before, this is some great stuff!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 12 2011 at 06:04
Originally posted by Proletariat Proletariat wrote:

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I can't believe I havn't heard of Evrything Everything before, this is some great stuff!


Yep. Their debut's bursting with potential. They're going to be huge.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 12 2011 at 13:04
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Originally posted by Proletariat Proletariat wrote:

^^^
I can't believe I havn't heard of Evrything Everything before, this is some great stuff!


Yep. Their debut's bursting with potential. They're going to be huge.
I would not be surprised if it was, I expect to see pitchfork heralding this as the next big thing at any time!!!
 
 
I await the day I hear Math-pop on the radio! Cool
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 12 2011 at 14:16
Originally posted by Proletariat Proletariat wrote:

Originally posted by Trouserpress Trouserpress wrote:

Originally posted by Proletariat Proletariat wrote:

^^^
I can't believe I havn't heard of Evrything Everything before, this is some great stuff!

Yep. Their debut's bursting with potential. They're going to be huge.
I would not be surprised if it was, I expect to see pitchfork heralding this as the next big thing at any time!!!

Nope! Come on, Cedric Bixler-Zavala can only dream of being as annoying as EE's singer, did you really expect Pitchfork to like them?

And before anyone else, I have to get in my no no no for both of those being on PA. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 12 2011 at 14:34
Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

Originally posted by Proletariat Proletariat wrote:

Originally posted by Trouserpress Trouserpress wrote:

Originally posted by Proletariat Proletariat wrote:

^^^
I can't believe I havn't heard of Evrything Everything before, this is some great stuff!

Yep. Their debut's bursting with potential. They're going to be huge.
I would not be surprised if it was, I expect to see pitchfork heralding this as the next big thing at any time!!!

Nope! Come on, Cedric Bixler-Zavala can only dream of being as annoying as EE's singer, did you really expect Pitchfork to like them?

And before anyone else, I have to get in my no no no for both of those being on PA. 
Pitchfork is shifty especially with prog for example Rock Bottom was rated a 2 and then it got reissued and they changed it to a 9... pitchfork constantly changes their minds and they have so many reviewers that there is absolutely no consistancy between their reviews. if hipsters pick up on EE then pitchfork will too. PA is even worse in this respect though... and as I have stated I have no confidence in PAs collabs adding anything that makes sence hahaha atleast PA is good with classic prog hahahaLOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 12 2011 at 15:59
Originally posted by Proletariat Proletariat wrote:

Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

Originally posted by Proletariat Proletariat wrote:

Originally posted by Trouserpress Trouserpress wrote:

Originally posted by Proletariat Proletariat wrote:

^^^
I can't believe I havn't heard of Evrything Everything before, this is some great stuff!

Yep. Their debut's bursting with potential. They're going to be huge.
I would not be surprised if it was, I expect to see pitchfork heralding this as the next big thing at any time!!!

Nope! Come on, Cedric Bixler-Zavala can only dream of being as annoying as EE's singer, did you really expect Pitchfork to like them?

And before anyone else, I have to get in my no no no for both of those being on PA. 
Pitchfork is shifty especially with prog for example Rock Bottom was rated a 2 and then it got reissued and they changed it to a 9... pitchfork constantly changes their minds and they have so many reviewers that there is absolutely no consistancy between their reviews. if hipsters pick up on EE then pitchfork will too. PA is even worse in this respect though... and as I have stated I have no confidence in PAs collabs adding anything that makes sence hahaha atleast PA is good with classic prog hahahaLOL


EE is amazing, those guys have a place in X-over or Post/math here.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 12 2011 at 22:05
 
Originally posted by Proletariat Proletariat wrote:

   Pitchfork is shifty especially with prog for example Rock Bottom was rated a 2 and then it got reissued and they changed it to a 9... pitchfork constantly changes their minds and they have so many reviewers that there is absolutely no consistancy between their reviews. if hipsters pick up on EE then pitchfork will too. PA is even worse in this respect though... and as I have stated I have no confidence in PAs collabs adding anything that makes sence hahaha atleast PA is good with classic prog hahahaLOL

Oh yeah, while I agree with their overall assessment in this case because I can't stand anything I've heard from EE, I don't mean to defend Pitchfork. I think they're a little more resolute than you're giving them credit for, though. TMV seems to be fairly popular among hipsters and Pitchfork hasn't held back the hate for any of their albums. 
 
Originally posted by Starhammer Starhammer wrote:

 EE is amazing, those guys have a place in X-over or Post/math here.

I really do not see Crossover at all, and I am absolutely sure they're not math rock. 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 13 2011 at 04:36
Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

I really do not see Crossover at all, and I am absolutely sure they're not math rock. 


I'm certainly not going to push hard for EE to be added as they hardly need any additional exposure, but they certainly have their origins in math rock, with two of the core members having previously played in a pretty typical math rock band by the name of Modern Bison. Part of EE's appeal is that their sound is all over the shop, drawing on dozens of different influences and genres and the math rock element is definitely present if you listen out for it.

But like I say, I'm totally ambivalent to whether any of these guys actually get added or not. I wouldn't categorise them as progressive rock, but seeing as PA has gone way beyond adding bands formally associated with prog I see no reason why they shouldn't be just at home here as half of the crossover/prog-related groups.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 13 2011 at 13:24
Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

 
Originally posted by Proletariat Proletariat wrote:

   Pitchfork is shifty especially with prog for example Rock Bottom was rated a 2 and then it got reissued and they changed it to a 9... pitchfork constantly changes their minds and they have so many reviewers that there is absolutely no consistancy between their reviews. if hipsters pick up on EE then pitchfork will too. PA is even worse in this respect though... and as I have stated I have no confidence in PAs collabs adding anything that makes sence hahaha atleast PA is good with classic prog hahahaLOL

Oh yeah, while I agree with their overall assessment in this case because I can't stand anything I've heard from EE, I don't mean to defend Pitchfork. I think they're a little more resolute than you're giving them credit for, though. TMV seems to be fairly popular among hipsters and Pitchfork hasn't held back the hate for any of their albums. 
 
Originally posted by Starhammer Starhammer wrote:

 EE is amazing, those guys have a place in X-over or Post/math here.

I really do not see Crossover at all, and I am absolutely sure they're not math rock. 
so what your saying is that because you can't stand them they are not prog?
lets not let this turn into another what is prog debate, thats the last thing this site needs.
and besides prog died in 89 anyways right?WinkLOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 13 2011 at 14:43
 
Originally posted by Proletariat Proletariat wrote:

   so what you're saying is that because you can't stand them they are not prog?  

No, that's not what I'm saying. 
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