Apocalyptica - Progressive Metal

Starhammer wrote: Prisonburg wrote: So I guess we have to listen to what the so-called "Gentle" Giants of they say? That we can't add any other suitable prog bands that considered "not prog enough", or "too popular"? What the f**k? I thought this website was where you can add a band that's PROG! But whatever. Doesn't matter anymore, because I'm pretty sure the top dogs won't ever listen to what a "Newbie" like me has to say. Who said anything about popularity being criteria for addition?

I said, as a joke.

Okay, my comment was real dramatic. I'm just kind of mad because every time I try to find bands to be put on this website, people just reject it. That's all.

Nightwish and Rhapsody were both entered on the site in the very beginning when anyone could add a band to the database.  They were not approved by the metal genre team.  Because reviews were done on albums for these bands, it was decided to leave the bands on rather than delete them because it wouldn't be fair to people who had written reviews.  Unfortunately, leaving them on causes problems every time this discussion/argument comes up, because if they are here, then so and so should be here too.

rushfan4 wrote: Nightwish and Rhapsody were both entered on the site in the very beginning when anyone could add a band to the database.  They were not approved by the metal genre team.  Because reviews were done on albums for these bands, it was decided to leave the bands on rather than delete them because it wouldn't be fair to people who had written reviews.  Unfortunately, leaving them on causes problems every time this discussion/argument comes up, because if they are here, then so and so should be here too.

Now that we have MMA, I wouldn't be opposed against such a "clean-up" indeed.
Who knows, maybe when we wouldn't have anything else to do anymore.


Edited by Bonnek - February 08 2011 at 16:54

Bonnek wrote: ^ Which won't be anytime soon as long as mr Lynx keeps entertaining us like this.

you're just a brick in the wall thinking that he's not.

Henry Plainview wrote:  "That search function dont work as it is the same in any other forum. OK, it "works", but only if one knows the topic poster nickname, the time when it was posted, it is not enough to write only the name of the band or the artist, etc." Not at all, you just need to change the default setting so it doesn't block results older than 6 months. Did you not realize that the fields aren't mandatory? Here are the four other threads suggesting Apocalyptica. I've made my share of complaints about the search before, but with the post-update ability to search in message bodies there's no reason to complain anymore. Here is every post ever made on PA with the word Apocalyptica.

Exactly. But my "problem" was abit different. I didn't search for Apocalyptica, I tried to find previous suggestion(s) for Loreena Mc Kennitt. Few days ago I suggested her for Prog Folk. Because of the reason that nobody before suggested her and  I'v been spelling her name wrongly,  I get no result. So, everything is OK with that search function. My mistake!

Instead of talking about how the rules say that if a band is rejected then it has to be approved only by unanimous vote of the admin team and blah blah blah let's focus on the real issue here and the ONLY reason why Apocalyptica is not in PA: they ARE NOT PROG. Playing simple music with cellos doesn't make you prog. Adding cellos and strings to relatively regular meta structures doesn't make you prog. Hell you can play metal using just a flute, an oboe, a mellotron and a bunch of kitchen pots, and no matter how "wow" that seems, it still doesn't make you prog if your songs are simple, relatively typical hard-rock/metal. 

Edited by The T - February 09 2011 at 11:23

Henry Plainview wrote:     rushfan4 wrote: BTW, Apocalyptica released 7th Symphony in 2010.  Was this after the Prog Metal team evaluated them?  Has this album been heard and evaluated?  I've not heard it and have no opinion on it, but I'm just curious. I don't believe so, T posted in an '08 thread that they were considered and rejected.

So the question that I would ask is, is the new 2010 release wow pow bang enough of a prog album to get them included in PA?  My guess is probably not.  The singer from Gojira does sing on one of the songs, but that doesn't necessarily make it prog and even if it is, one prog song on an album does not make the album prog.  But given that they have released a new album since they were rejected in 2008, that would open them up for a new evaluation. 

Or again, if you really, really like metal, MMA will have all these bands and more.