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progkidjoel
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Posted: January 31 2011 at 03:20 |
JJLehto wrote:
Good point. Only other thing that kinda freaks me out is when Kevin was saying he has, pretty much, been in a hallucination state. In sleep paralysis, and dreaming but fully aware of it, so for like an hour he was there paralyzed more or less hallucinating over real life. I think, something like that
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Yep, that is scary as hell. Probably the most horrifying experience of my life. Basically you can't move but you can look around and elements from dreams will appear to be around you. After a school camp I fell asleep on my bed and couldn't move but could look around, and I could see people running around my house and here voices. sh*t is insanely horrifying. It's a pretty common phenomena though, and apparently once mastered, you can enter a lucid dream nearly instantly.
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irrelevant
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Posted: January 31 2011 at 03:19 |
JJLehto wrote:
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It's weird that after I wake up from a dream the real environment seems different because you've been in the dream for so long. |
Well I personally can NEVER ever remember mine
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I rarely remember mine.
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JJLehto
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Posted: January 31 2011 at 03:17 |
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It's weird that after I wake up from a dream the real environment seems different because you've been in the dream for so long. |
Well I personally can NEVER ever remember mine, kind of why I want to try this. On that note, seriously I am tired. HENRY IT'S 4:17 AM! We're talking to 2 people from Australia man. Why are we not asleep??? Especially you, go to bed!
Edited by JJLehto - January 31 2011 at 03:17
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JJLehto
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Posted: January 31 2011 at 03:16 |
Good point. Only other thing that kinda freaks me out is when Kevin was saying he has, pretty much, been in a hallucination state. In sleep paralysis, and dreaming but fully aware of it, so for like an hour he was there paralyzed more or less hallucinating over real life. I think, something like that
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irrelevant
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Posted: January 31 2011 at 03:15 |
It's weird that after I wake up from a dream the real environment seems different because you've been in the dream for so long.
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progkidjoel
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Posted: January 31 2011 at 03:12 |
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JJLehto
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Posted: January 31 2011 at 03:11 |
progkidjoel wrote:
@JJ: Nice brosky, be sure to keep a diary of dreamz for maximum success. RE astral projection: never experienced it, no idea if it's real, although I'm skeptical. I'm sure if you wanted to believe it enough you could dream it and convince yourself it was proper projection.
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Yeah that would be my guess about Astral Projection. And Kevin told me to keep the journal as ready as possible and record every possible detail you can. As I told ya, last time I went to bed saying "I will remember my dream" I did, and wrote it down and still remember with vivid detail to this moment, so it does seem to work. Also the dream was kinda terrifying and weird
Edited by JJLehto - January 31 2011 at 03:13
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progkidjoel
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Posted: January 31 2011 at 03:09 |
@JJ: Nice brosky, be sure to keep a diary of dreamz for maximum success. RE astral projection: never experienced it, no idea if it's real, although I'm skeptical. I'm sure if you wanted to believe it enough you could dream it and convince yourself it was proper projection.
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Henry Plainview
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Posted: January 31 2011 at 03:07 |
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Astral projection isn't real, though.
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Just a dream you think? |
I don't see how it could be otherwise. Some people on the internet have claimed that they frequently have Inception dreams where everybody tries to kill them.
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if you own a sodastream i hate you
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JJLehto
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Posted: January 31 2011 at 03:03 |
Well, how can you know it's real or not? You may believe not. I'm pretty skeptical myself, but open to anything. Edit: Yeah, I want to say it's probably extremely vivid dreams but how can we know eh?
And I suppose it could be scary, being aware for a long period. Last time I remembered a dream, still do, it was a pretty frightening one.
Edited by JJLehto - January 31 2011 at 03:04
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Posted: January 31 2011 at 03:03 |
Henry Plainview wrote:
Astral projection isn't real, though.
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Just a dream you think?
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Henry Plainview
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Posted: January 31 2011 at 02:59 |
Usually when I realize I'm dreaming it's not a pleasant dream and I want to wake up. It doesn't happen that often, though, and it's not always sinister, but like you I pretty much just wake up if I try to control it. For example, I did have a weird multi-layered dream the other night, it was the first actual nightmare I've had in a long time. I was in a castle with Kris Straub and we saw a ghost and I woke up multiple times inside the castle. I don't remember very clearly except that in my dream I thought it might be Inception. The ghost was just chilling there, though, it shouldn't have been so scary, but I was trying to claw myself awake and I woke up sweating with my heart pounding.
Astral projection isn't real, though.
Edited by Henry Plainview - January 31 2011 at 03:00
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irrelevant
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Posted: January 31 2011 at 02:57 |
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JJLehto
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Posted: January 31 2011 at 02:57 |
irrelevant wrote:
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I've heard of astral projection. |
Ah well there ya go. According to some (and for us proggers Toby Driver) that's like the uber form of lucid dreaming.
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Apparently my Dad has experienced it.
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Astral Projection or Lucid Dreaming? If it's the former I'm pretty intrigued by that.
Edited by JJLehto - January 31 2011 at 02:57
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Posted: January 31 2011 at 02:53 |
JJLehto wrote:
irrelevant wrote:
I've heard of astral projection. |
Ah well there ya go. According to some (and for us proggers Toby Driver) that's like the uber form of lucid dreaming.
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Apparently my Dad has experienced it.
Edited by irrelevant - January 31 2011 at 02:56
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JJLehto
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Posted: January 31 2011 at 02:49 |
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I've heard of astral projection. |
Ah well there ya go. According to some (and for us proggers Toby Driver) that's like the uber form of lucid dreaming.
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irrelevant
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Posted: January 31 2011 at 02:48 |
I've heard of astral projection.
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JJLehto
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Posted: January 31 2011 at 02:47 |
Henry Plainview wrote:
Lucid dreaming is cool but I've never done it. Whenever I can tell it's a dream I always try to kill myself to wake up. A lot of the time by that point, though, I've lost control and I can't do it.
Astral project is derp, though. I hope Toby doesn't actually believe in that nonsense.
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lolwut man Best I had was like 2 seconds I was able to "control" my dream but it was like "move left" then I woke up. And lol I never quite bought that Astral Plane stuff. But if Toby claims he goes there and makes music based off the collective conscious of billions of humans than who am I to argue?
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Henry Plainview
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Posted: January 31 2011 at 02:44 |
Lucid dreaming is cool but I've never done it. Whenever I can tell it's a dream I always try to kill myself to wake up. A lot of the time by that point, though, I've lost control and I can't do it.
Astral projection is derp, though. I hope Toby doesn't actually believe in that nonsense.
Edited by Henry Plainview - January 31 2011 at 02:45
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JJLehto
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Posted: January 31 2011 at 02:44 |
Well a lucid dream is when you are dreaming, but aware of it. happens naturally sometimes. I know I've had them but for the briefest of moments. Usually I just wake up when I realize it. Well you can kinda work on it and get to the point where you can lucid dream at will, and be full aware of it while still asleep. Eventually you can have control, to a degree, over your dreams. Joel is crazy good at it, he can explain more/better. If you want to go mad hippie, some try to get to the point where you have OBE's and go to the astral plane and crazy sh*t like that I just want to see if I can remember them vividly for now.
Edited by JJLehto - January 31 2011 at 02:45
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