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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2011 at 18:59
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

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How the hell are calories measured? I could understand how sugar, fat, and etc content can be measured in food, but what about calories? How does one determine "oh this banana has 50 calories" (other than reading the label, and how do they do it anyway?)


"Calorie: a unit of heat equal to the amount of heat required to raise the temperature of one kilogram of water by one degree at one atmosphere pressure; used by nutritionists to characterize the energy-producing potential in food."


Note that when discussing food, a "calorie" is actually a kilocalorie with respect to the above definition.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2011 at 17:02
I thought you guys might be interested by these articles about America that I just found:

http://www.bostonreview.net/BR35.6/kennedy.php
http://nationalinterest.org/article/imperial-by-design-4576?page=show
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2011 at 15:53
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

How the hell are calories measured? I could understand how sugar, fat, and etc content can be measured in food, but what about calories? How does one determine "oh this banana has 50 calories" (other than reading the label, and how do they do it anyway?)


"Calorie: a unit of heat equal to the amount of heat required to raise the temperature of one kilogram of water by one degree at one atmosphere pressure; used by nutritionists to characterize the energy-producing potential in food."
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2011 at 15:48
How the hell are calories measured? I could understand how sugar, fat, and etc content can be measured in food, but what about calories? How does one determine "oh this banana has 50 calories" (other than reading the label, and how do they do it anyway?)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2011 at 14:36
Originally posted by NecronCommander NecronCommander wrote:

I've heard that eating as few as 100 calories less than your usual caloric intake per day, plus a half hour of exercise, can help drop at least half a pound a day.


Maybe during the first week or so as your body loses excess water.  A pound of fat is about 3,500 calories, so to lose a pound of fat, you'd have to cut back / burn 500 calories a day to lose a pound of flab in one week.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2011 at 14:17
I've heard that eating as few as 100 calories less than your usual caloric intake per day, plus a half hour of exercise, can help drop at least half a pound a day.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2011 at 14:03
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

In other news, I've lost 8 pounds since I've moved.  Got a head start on the New Year.  LOL

Was it the moving that did it?  I find if you are one of the ones doing it you can't help but shed a little weight. 

Moving experience ahead for us before the end of January if all goes well. Dead LOL


I actually gained a pound after all that moving.  Ouch

All I've been doing really is consciously cutting down on the size of my meal portions- that's really it.  And I grill out about twice a week now.

Good luck with your move.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2011 at 13:55
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

In other news, I've lost 8 pounds since I've moved.  Got a head start on the New Year.  LOL

Was it the moving that did it?  I find if you are one of the ones doing it you can't help but shed a little weight. 

Moving experience ahead for us before the end of January if all goes well. Dead LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2011 at 13:23
Vitamins, minerals and nutrients are meant to be gotten from wholesome food ......not from pills, supplements etc..........nothing wrong with drinking some beers as long as you don't neglect the body's nutritional requirements.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2011 at 12:52
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

I'm trying to gain 10 pounds myself.


I'd gladly give you the 10 if I could.

Got about 30 more after that if anyone else is interested.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2011 at 12:23
I'm trying to gain 10 pounds myself.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2011 at 12:22
In other news, I've lost 8 pounds since I've moved.  Got a head start on the New Year.  LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2011 at 12:18
No he drank Bud 40s religiously. 

I doubt he paid much attention to his vitamin intake though.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2011 at 12:15
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

When I was a kid, my brothers and I collected cans to pay for things we wanted.  We'd crush them up and dad would take them to the place to turn them in.

Our next door neighbor was a man named Carlton Adams.  He would spend his entire afternoon sitting on their backyard swing and drinking Olympia beer out of the can and smoking cigarettes.

The man was a gold mine for us, because we'd get a 13 gallon trash bag full of beer cans every few days.  Anyway, I always wondered how in the world a man could drink so much beer like that.  Now I know.  Smile

Thing is, he died early on in my teenage years.  But he didn't die of beer consumption- he died of emphysema.  I don't know anybody else who drinks beer like he did (other than me), so I have no idea how it will affect me, except to say that it keeps my kidneys flushed and my cholesterol in check.

The funny thing is that we really don't even know the extent of what diet soda will do to people in the long term, because we've only known about Aspartame since 1965.  We don't have any elderly people yet who drank 3+ diet sodas a day for most of their lives (although we do have many, many younger people who do, and interestingly enough, quite a number of them are overweight).

My uncle drank like you. Probably a little more than you, but his liver went out on him when he was 55. 

Small sample size though completely ignoring other factors that determine liver health. 


Did your uncle drink a lot of hard liquor?  I don't.  I should also point out that I refrain from taking medication that affects the liver (like acetaminophen).  If I get a bad headache, I just deal with it.   I also make sure I am replacing the lost B-vitamins and other nutrients.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2011 at 12:05
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

When I was a kid, my brothers and I collected cans to pay for things we wanted.  We'd crush them up and dad would take them to the place to turn them in.

Our next door neighbor was a man named Carlton Adams.  He would spend his entire afternoon sitting on their backyard swing and drinking Olympia beer out of the can and smoking cigarettes.

The man was a gold mine for us, because we'd get a 13 gallon trash bag full of beer cans every few days.  Anyway, I always wondered how in the world a man could drink so much beer like that.  Now I know.  Smile

Thing is, he died early on in my teenage years.  But he didn't die of beer consumption- he died of emphysema.  I don't know anybody else who drinks beer like he did (other than me), so I have no idea how it will affect me, except to say that it keeps my kidneys flushed and my cholesterol in check.

The funny thing is that we really don't even know the extent of what diet soda will do to people in the long term, because we've only known about Aspartame since 1965.  We don't have any elderly people yet who drank 3+ diet sodas a day for most of their lives (although we do have many, many younger people who do, and interestingly enough, quite a number of them are overweight).

My uncle drank like you. Probably a little more than you, but his liver went out on him when he was 55. 

Small sample size though completely ignoring other factors that determine liver health. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2011 at 12:03
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Beer's problem is the carbs.  Hello?  Where the hell is Mikeo? LOL


Depends on the brew.  I mostly drink light beer at night, and so the carb content is relatively low.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2011 at 12:01
When I was a kid, my brothers and I collected cans to pay for things we wanted.  We'd crush them up and dad would take them to the place to turn them in.

Our next door neighbor was a man named Carlton Adams.  He would spend his entire afternoon sitting on their backyard swing and drinking Olympia beer out of the can and smoking cigarettes.

The man was a gold mine for us, because we'd get a 13 gallon trash bag full of beer cans every few days.  Anyway, I always wondered how in the world a man could drink so much beer like that.  Now I know.  Smile

Thing is, he died early on in my teenage years.  But he didn't die of beer consumption- he died of emphysema.  I don't know anybody else who drinks beer like he did (other than me), so I have no idea how it will affect me, except to say that it keeps my kidneys flushed and my cholesterol in check.

The funny thing is that we really don't even know the extent of what diet soda will do to people in the long term, because we've only known about Aspartame since 1965.  We don't have any elderly people yet who drank 3+ diet sodas a day for most of their lives (although we do have many, many younger people who do, and interestingly enough, quite a number of them are overweight).


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2011 at 11:55
Anything goes in the Libertarian thread. We recognize no central authority with monopoly power to determine what is and what is not proper discussion. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2011 at 11:54
Beer's problem is the carbs.  Hello?  Where the hell is Mikeo? LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2011 at 11:53
Agreed, and also my day looks almost the same as you described yours. Except that we take lunch late in the day, which is the perfect occasion for wine. (I usually drink after a meal, only rarely I drink just for the fun). 
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