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topographicbroadways ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 20 2010 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 5575 |
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i am opening my mind to anything here whether it's jazz fusion, symphonic, crossover, prog metal or whatever else there might be
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topographicbroadways ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 20 2010 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 5575 |
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the video you posted on the other page is pretty much why i'm asking and i'm trying to abandon my prejudice for thing after 1977
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toroddfuglesteg ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Retired Joined: March 04 2008 Location: Retirement Home Status: Offline Points: 3658 |
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When it comes to traditional RPI, there is a good case for claiming that the best RPI was released post '89. Check out that Tempio Delle Clessidre video I posted one page ago. Other bands is Castello Di Atlante, Deliriums newest album, Conqueror, Hostsonaten, Three Monks, Calliope, Finisterre, Randone, RanestRane, Ubi Maior and some I have forgotten. In short; RPI is like the Ferrari and their F1 team: Both a great history and a great presence. |
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Finnforest ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 03 2007 Location: The Heartland Status: Online Points: 17332 |
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There are some good 90s bands but I think the 00s bands are even better.
What kind of prog are you looking for.....there is a wide range of styles out there. |
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...that moment you realize you like "Mob Rules" better than "Heaven and Hell"
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topographicbroadways ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 20 2010 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 5575 |
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is there any post-70's RPI bands people would recommend?
maybe something from the 90's since i have heard some 80's but not checked out anything, to quote PA's favourite phrase "post-89"
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Finnforest ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 03 2007 Location: The Heartland Status: Online Points: 17332 |
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Happy New Year to RPI fanatics everywhere! May 2011 see the continuation of the current resurgence of Italian progressive rock
![]() To some of our lurkers, feel free to pop in and tell us about your favorite RPI discoveries! |
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...that moment you realize you like "Mob Rules" better than "Heaven and Hell"
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seventhsojourn ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: December 11 2009 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 4006 |
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^ Felice Anno Nuovo!
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American Khatru ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 28 2009 Location: New York Status: Offline Points: 732 |
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Buon Anno!!!
to all my fellow RPI lovers! |
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![]() Why must my spell-checker continually underline the word "prog"? |
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m2thek ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: November 12 2009 Location: NY Status: Offline Points: 220 |
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I read it a couple days ago =)
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Finnforest ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 03 2007 Location: The Heartland Status: Online Points: 17332 |
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M2, please note there is an interview with this band in our interview section. It may not get into translation, but you might enjoy it anyway.
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...that moment you realize you like "Mob Rules" better than "Heaven and Hell"
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m2thek ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: November 12 2009 Location: NY Status: Offline Points: 220 |
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The singer of ITDC is the same from Museo Resenbach, but I don't know why they picked that exact track for their name.
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Finnforest ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 03 2007 Location: The Heartland Status: Online Points: 17332 |
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Nice review Ivan
![]() A.D. 2010 - La buona novella (Opera apocrifa da La buona novella di Fabrizio De Andrč) Premiata Forneria Marconi ![]()
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Ivan_Melgar_M
![]() A few months ago I found about the release of "2010 AD - La Buona Novella", a Prog Opera by PFM based in the conceptual album composed by Fabrizio de Andre in 1970 and performed by him and PFM. "La Buona Novella" a musical version of an apocryphal Gospel which confers the same importance to the Divine and human nature of Christ, reason why it was not well received in a Catholic country as Italy. In 2010, Premiata Formería Marconi hasn't only resurrected the album to make a cover version of it, but make a new release, modifying all the arrangements and adding complete songs and new sections to the tracks, for this reason is a new album completely different to the original. As we know, PFM had to face two problems, the legendary keyboardist "Flavio Premoli" had to leave the band due for health reasons that go back to 2005, but his place is covered by "Gianluca Tagliavini" (who has been playing with the band since 2006), and does an excellent job. The second problem I find relies in the vocals, "Franz di Cioccio" takes the lead and strangely not even "Franco Mussida" sings, and being that Franz range is very raspy, becomes an acquired taste, but after a few minutes the listener gets used being that "Di Cioccio" puts the soul in all his performances. "2010 AD" begins with "Universo e Terra" (Universe and Earth), a very elaborate prelude written by PFM not only to introduce the listener into the concept, but also to recreate the sound of 1970 (The Hammond organ is delightful), with Franco Mussida making an amazing work in the guitars. "L'infanzia di Maria" (The Childhood of Mary) is an incredibly beautiful song where "Lucio Fabbri) gives a fantastic violin performance that blends perfectly with the nostalgic lyrics sung by "Di Cioccio", a strong beginning with an extra section added by PFM called "La Tentazioni" (The Temptation), written by PFM. "Il Ritorno di Giuseppe" (Joseph's Return) is much more dramatic than the previous song, even when they don't loose their fascination for a strong melody, again PFM adds a new section called "Il Respiro del Deserto (The breath of the Desert) to the already excellent original work. "Il Sogno di Maria" (Mary's Dream) surprised me, because I expected a more oneiric and dreamy song, but instead the band presents a folksy tune based in "Di Cioccio's" vocals and the acoustic guitars by "Mussida" and apparently by "Fabbri". "Ave Maria" is a chance for "Franco Mussida" to demonstrate his skills with the electric guitar, well supported by "Di Cioccio" and Patrick Djivas" in the drums and bass. Again PFM gives priority to the melody rather than to complexity, but this doesn't affect the Prog nature of the album and track. PF adds a new section called "Aria per Maria" (Aria for Mary). "Maria Nella Bottega di un Falegname" (Mary in a Carpenter's Workshop) is simply fantastic, the instrumental sections with flute, violin percussion and synthesizers are simply breathtaking, the most elaborate track of the album at this point. Again "Mussida, Djivas and Di Cioccio" ad a new section to "De Andre's" work called "Rumori di Bottega" (Rumours from a Workshop). "Via de la Croce" (The Route of the Cross) starts with a narration supposedly made by Pontius Pilate and when the singing section starts seems that at last "Franco Mussida" has taken the lead vocals (not sure though) and of course we can expect an absolutely dramatic song due to the nature of the lyrics. Again PFM added a new section called " Scintille di Pena" (Sparks of Sadness). "Tre Madri" (Three Mothers) is a very sad song that reflects the pain of the mother of a crucified son, the arrangements are just perfect mixing Blues based Rock with some Classical and Italian ethnic influences, the touch of the crying violin by "Fabbri" are heartbreaking. As usual PFM added a new section called "Canto delle Madri" (Chant of the Mother), amazingly beautiful and radical changes around the fourth minute with a killer drumming and violin. "Laudate Hominem" (Praise to the Man) is a song that Fabrizio de Andre made from his perspective of Christ as the first revolutionary, to honour his human essence. PFM decided to close the album with an incredibly complex and elaborate song and added a new section called "Oda all'Uomo" (Ode to the Man) wit specially radical arrangements. After reading the previous review I can't do anything else than respectfully disagree, in my opinion 2010 AD - La Buona Novella" is a perfect masterpiece, well composed and with even better arrangements than the original album by "Fabrizio de Andre", I would be dishonest with myself if I didn't rated this magnificent album with less than five solid stars. Edited by Finnforest - December 31 2010 at 15:06 |
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...that moment you realize you like "Mob Rules" better than "Heaven and Hell"
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Finnforest ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 03 2007 Location: The Heartland Status: Online Points: 17332 |
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I am certain Andrea P will get into song meanings when he reviews, he always provides that insight for we English speakers.
If you can't wait though, just find the band on Myspace or Facebook, they are a very kind bunch of folks who will be happy to answer questions I'm sure. ![]() |
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...that moment you realize you like "Mob Rules" better than "Heaven and Hell"
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American Khatru ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 28 2009 Location: New York Status: Offline Points: 732 |
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![]() Why must my spell-checker continually underline the word "prog"? |
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American Khatru ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 28 2009 Location: New York Status: Offline Points: 732 |
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I can't translate for you. But I asked myself why that band name looked familiar. Finally looked at some of my RPI albums. Ah, ... the closing section of MUSEO ROSENBACH's great track Zarathustra is named "Il Tempio delle Clessidre".
A little Babel Fish later, and a trip to my Oxford Italian mini-dictionary: the phrase means "The Temple of the Hourglasses" (far as I know, "delle" is plural, but maybe some other rule of grammar should be in play - forgive my ignorance). Nice. I wonder if they named themselves for the classic act's song-section, or if it's a phrase that appears elsewhere in Italian culture (a poem perhaps?), or if this is just some kind of coincidence. You probably already figured all that out. But as far as a translation of more than that, sorry, no can do m2thek. |
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Andrea Cortese ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 05 2005 Status: Offline Points: 4411 |
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^^^
...sooner or later one of the italians here will post both lyrics and translation... probably fellow andrea is already working on it... ehe he h eh |
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toroddfuglesteg ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Retired Joined: March 04 2008 Location: Retirement Home Status: Offline Points: 3658 |
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Me too would like to find a translation........ But let me use this as a bad, very bad excuse to post a f a n t a s t i c song from that album. Listen, marvel and just fall down on the floor in joy. Enough said.
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m2thek ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: November 12 2009 Location: NY Status: Offline Points: 220 |
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Could somebody give me the gist of Il Tempio delle Clessidre? It sounds like he's singing about something really interesting, but I don't think there are any lyrics online to translate.
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Nightfly ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: August 01 2007 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 3659 |
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Yes, it must be RanestRane doing their latest project The Shinning perhaps.
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Todd ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() RPI / Heavy Prog Team Joined: December 19 2007 Location: California Status: Offline Points: 3472 |
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That's my guess, too. They're the only band I know of that does live soundtracks.
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