For my Libertarian friends

Oh no somebody is angry for no discernible reason. My point should be implicit in what I said. My desires for private law enforcement and approval of  general disrespect for the law have been said repeatedly throughout the 250 pages of this thread.

Your point is also false. You don't use your turn signal because someone makes you. You don't refrain from punching every person that looks at you the wrong way because someone makes you. Typically the public follows laws because they math their own sense of morality. This is one of the numerous reasons that prohibitions are ineffective. People will consume what they want to consumer irregardless of the law.

EDIT: You seem to be suggesting that they should be overlooked since the current culture in law enforcement supports this and you don't seemed concerned with changing anything.

That ends our lecture for today. Please read Chapters 1-8 in the text.




Edited by Equality 7-2521 - December 10 2010 at 12:33

GaryB wrote: I went through the early seventies and the only crimes I commited were getting high and having hair down to the middle of my back. The line was drawn with cops on one side and longhaired rockers on the other. But my first run in with the law happened a month after I got out of the Army. A smart*ss cop got in my face and I got back in his. I was arrested for threatening a police officer and interfering with an officer in the performance of his duty. But there is still a need for law enforcement and people prove that every time there is a natural disaster.

You're equating a state-run and taxpayer funded system of police as the only possible police force. There's no reason to make this assumption. Actually worse, you're equating a state-run and taxpayer funded system where corrupt acts by cops are overlooked, encouraged, and supported by the masses and popular culture.

I went through the early seventies and the only crimes I commited were getting high and having hair down to the middle of my back. The line was drawn with cops on one side and longhaired rockers on the other.

Yes when you create the false dichotomy of abusive, murderous cops vs chaotic, lawless society, we see two sides to the situation. However, the situation luckily doesn't boil down to that.

stonebeard wrote: JJLehto wrote: stonebeard wrote: Reminds me my tax rebate's going to be pretty spiffy this year. First time I've had near-constant employment for a whole year. Not near constant, but between these 2 jobs yeah, been the longest I've worked since my senior year of HS! And huzzah for tax rebates! Giving us back our own money! But nah...it's for the common good of society. What would the state of New Jersey do without this $1.50 going to medical malpractice!? Probably send it to Kevin Smith to write good movies again.

Getting bored of burning money yourself?

JJLehto wrote: stonebeard wrote: JJLehto wrote: stonebeard wrote: Reminds me my tax rebate's going to be pretty spiffy this year. First time I've had near-constant employment for a whole year. Not near constant, but between these 2 jobs yeah, been the longest I've worked since my senior year of HS! And huzzah for tax rebates! Giving us back our own money! But nah...it's for the common good of society. What would the state of New Jersey do without this $1.50 going to medical malpractice!? Probably send it to Kevin Smith to write good movies again. LOL he had some? I guess Clerks wasn't awful. Fight the powah

Chasing Amy, Dogma, and Clerks 2.

Having Jay and Silent Bob in his movies are a necessary but not sufficient condition for them not completely sucking. (re: any script he's written for another director).

JJLehto wrote: stonebeard wrote: Reminds me my tax rebate's going to be pretty spiffy this year. First time I've had near-constant employment for a whole year. Not near constant, but between these 2 jobs yeah, been the longest I've worked since my senior year of HS! And huzzah for tax rebates! Giving us back our own money! But nah...it's for the common good of society. What would the state of New Jersey do without this $1.50 going to medical malpractice!?

Probably send it to Kevin Smith to write good movies again.

Reminds me my tax rebate's going to be pretty spiffy this year. First time I've had near-constant employment for a whole year.

JJLehto wrote: Total of $188.05 have been deducted from my pay.

It's much better if you have direct deposit and don't even look at the statement. Then suddenly...REBATE OUTTA NOWHERE.


Edited by stonebeard - December 08 2010 at 23:15

JJLehto wrote: Total of $188.05 have been deducted from my pay. As if being a delivery driver for f**king pizza hut wasn't bad enough!? The guvment is br00tal. Obama must listen to death metal.

Hey, look, as long as your hard working results in the fruit of your labor being distributed upward to the more worthy wealthy, what the hell are you complaining about???