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Posted: November 18 2010 at 04:00
Don't know about french people, but I have an idea about the reason why italians like prog. Actually it would be better saying "why during the seventies, many prog bands were born or had success in Italy". Dont forget that most of italian prog lovers today have white hair...
Anyway, IHO my idea is that italians in general are eclectic, do not like rigid rules or standard parameters. In this way, prog is exactly what italians like: music without limits in parameters, metric or fixed schemes.
Last but not least, italian composers in classic music, had their influence in italian people musical taste.
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Posted: November 18 2010 at 04:24
thellama73 wrote:
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Name some significant rock bands from France.?
Just because the English-speaking world will only listen to English-speaking bands doesn't mean France can't rock. Telephone was one of the great punk bands. And while Nirvana got all the press, I was more interested in Noir Desir. These two bands are probably the ones the French would consider the most significant bands. If Noir Desir had been British instead of French, they'd be a household name and "Un homme presse" would have been as significant a song in the US/UK as Beck's "Loser", Radiohead's "Creep" and the Verve's "Bittersweet Symphony," etc.
Let's see, a great rock album would be Soldat Louis' 1988 album Première bordée. Indochine was one of the great 80s bands anywhere. Of current bands, M83's the one that has impressed me the most, drawing as they do from shoegaze and My Bloody Valentine's playbooks.
I guess in the electronica and dance genres France has produced a number of significant artists. But still, generally, yeah, France has always been somewhat insulated so that the sheer number of rock bands produced by England and the US could never be matched by France. Much of their music draws from other traditions (the chansons, for example).
Still, there's a great many French singers I love, from Gainsbourg and some of the ye-ye singers to singer-songwriters like Alain Souchon, Etienne Daho and Francis Cabrel.
Don't know about french people, but I have an idea about the reason why italians like prog. Actually it would be better saying "why during the seventies, many prog bands were born or had success in Italy". Dont forget that most of italian prog lovers today have white hair...
Anyway, IHO my idea is that italians in general are eclectic, do not like rigid rules or standard parameters. In this way, prog is exactly what italians like: music without limits in parameters, metric or fixed schemes.
Last but not least, italian composers in classic music, had their influence in italian people musical taste.
Yes i agree with this post. And the reason why French don't like prog is difficult to answer. I just noticed reading many reviews of Prog Rock cd's that they are very demanding regarding the vocals and lyrics contents of a cd. And if they don't like one of those they will put down a cd even if the music content is very good. Or maybe it's just because they are jealous that the Britain people have taking over the genre in the 70's.
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Posted: November 18 2010 at 06:23
I think I'm the first to point out that this is one hell of a sweeping generalisation. If I were a French prog fan (and there are probably lots of them) I'd be pretty miffed.
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Posted: November 18 2010 at 08:35
No SERIOUSLY. I've never heard such a stupid question. In prog's 1970s heyday French music mags wrote about nothing but prog. And as others have said, the French had their own significant bands, from Atoll to Magma, with lots of others in between. One of my favourite prog albums of all time was dominated by French players (and composers): Gong's GAZEUSE.
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Posted: November 18 2010 at 08:52
probably (not quite) rock but they are very famous outside of france and have a huge following, and are respected for their green metal/nature eniviromentalist
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Posted: November 18 2010 at 10:05
fuxi wrote:
Slartibartfast wrote:
Ah come on, the French don't like anything. Except for fries...
And those are actually Belgian. As I am.
What's funny and I don't if you had heard this already is that when the French came out in opposition to the Iraq was some dumbasses started renaming their French Fries Freedom Fries. Ignorance is bliss, I guess.
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Posted: November 18 2010 at 11:19
octopus-4 wrote:
WalterDigsTunes wrote:
The Italians took Van Der Graaf Generator to #1 on their charts. Think about that.
One prog band at #1 for a week (if we don't consider Pink Floyd) in the last 40 years can't be considered statistically significant. It's just 1 on 2080 weeks.
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Posted: November 18 2010 at 11:23
i'm a french prog fan since 1969 and all the prog shows where i've been were sold out ,this topic could be a joke but i'm not so sure.......a lot of bullsh*t but nevermind, just remember the floyd started to become very very famous in france first 1968 (american were deaf at the time ) GREETING FROM A FRENCH SUCKER WHO ONLY KNOWS ABOUT CHEESE AND WINE
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Posted: November 18 2010 at 11:29
jean-marie wrote:
i'm a french prog fan since 1969 and all the prog shows where i've been were sold out ,this topic could be a joke but i'm not so sure.......a lot of bullsh*t but nevermind, just remember the floyd started to become very very famous in france first 1968 (american were deaf at the time ) GREETING FROM A FRENCH SUCKER WHO ONLY KNOWS ABOUT CHEESE AND WINE
Salut! I'm not sure that this thread should be taken seriously as it doesn't make any sense at all or maybe prog bands are played on the radio or in tv shows in Italy? I guess it's the same than everywhere...
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thellama73 wrote:
I'm not sure that this thread should be taken seriously as it doesn't make any sense at all or maybe prog bands are played on the radio or in tv shows in Italy? I guess it's the same than everywhere... 
