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Atavachron
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 30 2006 Location: Pearland Status: Offline Points: 65266 |
Posted: November 18 2010 at 00:58 |
I would've fought in the Revolutionary War, but then what else would one do under those circumstances. WW ll as well, though I would've tried to get a non-combat position. Vietnam? Hell no.
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Tapfret
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: August 12 2007 Location: Bryant, Wa Status: Offline Points: 8581 |
Posted: November 18 2010 at 00:56 |
I would have to perceive a direct threat.
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Vompatti
Forum Senior Member VIP Member Joined: October 22 2005 Location: elsewhere Status: Offline Points: 67407 |
Posted: November 18 2010 at 00:55 |
Lol no. (I wouldn't die for my city or my province either.)
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JJLehto
Prog Reviewer Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Status: Offline Points: 34550 |
Posted: November 18 2010 at 00:53 |
I can't imagine Benkato dying for his country.
Mainly for reasons Billy Pilgrim put so elegantly |
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Any Colour You Like
Prog Reviewer Joined: May 15 2009 Status: Offline Points: 12294 |
Posted: November 18 2010 at 00:52 |
It was an ironic long answer.
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Billy Pilgrim
Forum Senior Member Joined: September 28 2010 Location: Austin Status: Offline Points: 1505 |
Posted: November 18 2010 at 00:51 |
No. Patriotism is crap, round world last time I checked.
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Triceratopsoil
Forum Senior Member Joined: April 03 2010 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 18016 |
Posted: November 18 2010 at 00:51 |
well that wasn't very long at all, you're not fooling anybody |
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JJLehto
Prog Reviewer Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Status: Offline Points: 34550 |
Posted: November 18 2010 at 00:50 |
That's a shame because I kinda want you to explain this one Edited by JJLehto - November 18 2010 at 00:51 |
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Any Colour You Like
Prog Reviewer Joined: May 15 2009 Status: Offline Points: 12294 |
Posted: November 18 2010 at 00:47 |
Short answer: yes.
Long answer: no. CBF'd explaining. |
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The T
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 16 2006 Location: FL, USA Status: Offline Points: 17493 |
Posted: November 17 2010 at 22:44 |
I wouldn't. I would do that only for my family.
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Henry Plainview
Forum Senior Member Joined: May 26 2008 Location: Declined Status: Offline Points: 16715 |
Posted: November 17 2010 at 22:39 |
Nah, I'm pretty cowardly, but I would like you to elaborate on what you mean "For your country". Does dying in Iraq/Afghanistan count? Vietnam? What about preventing the USSR, Russia, or England from taking control of your government? What about preventing the government from being overthrown by anarchists so there is no government? Because I am pretty sure you are not going to find many people who are willing to die for a flag, and probably not even a symbolic statement of allegiance, although most people would agree that dying would be very noble, even though I'm sure you would disagree. And, to be fair, the terrorist almost certainly is not going to let you go anyway. Maybe if someone is in the military, but there are other factors at work there than just patriotism, like possibly being courtmartialed if you get back, and getting back is even more unlikely for them.
People in general are much less respectful of symbols: my dad was in the military (non-combat in Vietnam) and thinks flag burning should be illegal, but I remember when I was younger, some people were moving a large flag at school, and some mother said "Be careful not to let it touch the ground!" And I said "It's not like the Feds are here to bust you" and she replied contemptously "It's called respect" I really didn't understand why should be annoyed by that, it's reasonable to be careful with your country's flag if you like your country, but how does it matter at all if a piece of cloth touches the ground? The President doesn't know, the people who died in the 1700s don't know, that guy who just got the Medal of Honor doesn't know. At least when people complain about the abuse of religious symbols there's an actual entity that (presuming it exists) would be upset about that and whom you would not want to upset. Although I still think it's silly to get upset about Piss Christ and Madonna, who was even getting SHOCKED OUTRAGE on her latest tour, because you're feeding the trolls, but now we're wandering off-topic.
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if you own a sodastream i hate you
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stonebeard
Forum Senior Member Joined: May 27 2005 Location: NE Indiana Status: Offline Points: 28057 |
Posted: November 17 2010 at 22:26 |
Hell, I'd kill for a just alright one. |
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Lozlan
Forum Senior Member Joined: December 09 2009 Location: New Mexico Status: Offline Points: 536 |
Posted: November 17 2010 at 22:20 |
Um, no. Patriotism is a lie devised to feed the poor into a nation's war machine.
I'd kill for a decent White Russian, though. |
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JJLehto
Prog Reviewer Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Status: Offline Points: 34550 |
Posted: November 17 2010 at 22:18 |
Probably not.
The only way I could see it happening was some honest to god civil war/revolution type situation, and I have to truly believe in what's happening of course. As time has gone on I've become more apathetic about nationalism and all that jazz. All this trouble over lines we drew up all over the Earth and really...we're all the same just trying to live every day and get by.
Although THAT would make it tempting... |
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WalterDigsTunes
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Posted: November 17 2010 at 22:01 |
It's also amusing when he makes a movie about a man with no country |
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stonebeard
Forum Senior Member Joined: May 27 2005 Location: NE Indiana Status: Offline Points: 28057 |
Posted: November 17 2010 at 21:56 |
Eh probably, as long as Tom Hanks makes a movie about me.
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Textbook
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Posted: November 17 2010 at 21:52 |
You gotta love someone who cheerfully derails their own serious threads.
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Textbook
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Posted: November 17 2010 at 21:52 |
That's not what she said.
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WalterDigsTunes
Forum Senior Member Joined: September 11 2007 Location: SanDiegoTijuana Status: Offline Points: 4373 |
Posted: November 17 2010 at 21:51 |
I love you too, but let's keep our pants on. |
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Textbook
Forum Senior Member Joined: October 08 2009 Status: Offline Points: 3281 |
Posted: November 17 2010 at 21:49 |
Walter: Traditionally I find you to be an a****le but after that last post I want you to make wild passionate love to me.
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