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Battle of the Prog Bands SFD2: Floyd vs. Rush
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Originally posted by rogerthat rogerthat wrote:

Originally posted by Billy Pilgrim Billy Pilgrim wrote:

Any one member of Rush is twice as talented as Pink Floyd as a whole band. 


Lifeson twice as talented as THE Dave Gilmour, the king of bends and vibrato?  Gimme a break!  Lifeson doesn't even do his technical rock stuff too cleanly unlike the other monsters from the 70s like Roth, Schenker and Eddie Van Halen and some of his solos, like Freewill, are not too good at all.  No debate on Lee and Peart but then again, having better players never made a better band.
 
I agree with Gilmour...he is amazing, much better than any of the Floyd musicians, he stands alone in this group.
But Lifeson does not compare to the others....Uli Jon Roth after the Scorpions got lost in transcendental, heavenly Andreas Vollenweider type stuff. Uli was just like Ritchie Blackmore, kinda got lost...but great guitarist. I love his time with Scorpions.
I assume you mean Michael Schenker and not Rudolf. Michael was born a guitarist, a master of the 6-string. Michael's time with Scorpions and UFO clearly outshines what he has done the past 10-15 yrs. I am an advid MS listener....in no way would I compare his playing to Alex's. And Alex is not a frontman like Michael or Eddie VH were..
 
But agree on Gilmour.....I especially like his solo material.
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Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

 
On Influence, its my personal opinion about both bands...not the whole genre or time frame they may be influencing.


Sorry, I don't get this? Isn't influence about influencing genres/musicians to follow your leads?
 
Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

My personal belief is a band that enjoys playing music together as one cohesive unit makes better music longterm than a band that does not and has a lot of internal issues. And for these two bands that proof is in the pudding....I am sure you get my point that longevity is one main attribute of success...for me.


I got that. Personally, I also draw lines between the quality of albums.  The best Rush could do, Moving Pictures, is still not a patch on Meddle for me. Now if that is NOT your opinion, I can understand that but not how a long sequence of good albums is better than a few outstanding albums because I would always go for the latter.


Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

I doubt any band starts out to only be mildly succesful...The Beatles, Pink Floyd or Rush....and since you brought that other poll into this, yes I do feel Rush are more succesful than The Beatles for having the stamina and focus to continue for 35 yrs.


I should hope bands start out to, to put it baldly, make music.  Confused  Like Robert Fripp, for instance.  The music is what matters end of the day, not what the critics, the media, the fans think of you.

 

Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Your last point I don't understand....you said the following above "...Floyd spread themselves across a much wider variety of music"......I think most would be fine subing in Rush for Floyd in your sentence..Pink Floyd could have been trademarked in the 70's.



Then I would have to conclude they have never given much attention to Floyd beyond their 'iconic' songs. Let's take Dark Side....they go from Time through Great Gig in the Sky through Money through Us and Them etc to Eclipse.  That IS a wide variety of music, covering a wide gamut of emotions in turn.  I brought this up before in the Beatles debate too but Rush having already slotted themselves as heavy rock limit their options and are forced to lean on the side of heavy no matter what they do. Floyd never had such restrictions.  Anyway, I don't really see much similarity between Meddle and The Wall and, yes, I have heard them 'properly'.
 
Sorry if my style of argument of dividing the post line by line was offensive. Embarrassed
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I'll vote Pink Floyd here, and I'll probably sit out the final round....too tough
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Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

But Lifeson does not compare to the others....Uli Jon Roth after the Scorpions got lost in transcendental, heavenly Andreas Vollenweider type stuff. Uli was just like Ritchie Blackmore, kinda got lost...but great guitarist. I love his time with Scorpions.
I assume you mean Michael Schenker and not Rudolf. Michael was born a guitarist, a master of the 6-string. Michael's time with Scorpions and UFO clearly outshines what he has done the past 10-15 yrs. I am an advid MS listener....in no way would I compare his playing to Alex's. And Alex is not a frontman like Michael or Eddie VH were..
 
But agree on Gilmour.....I especially like his solo material.
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Never really tried Roth solo, so I did have his time with Scorpions in mind. Amazing guitarist, could let it rip like Catch your train and then use his lovely vibrato to delicate effect on ballads like In Your Park. 

Yeah, meant Michael Schenker. I know, his solo material was SO disappointing. Cry  UFO was clearly his best. 

I should reassess this but I like Gilmour's guitarwork on On An Island as much as on Meddle through to Dark Side, which is my favourite from his work with Floyd.  So dreamy, fluid and unbelievably beautiful.
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Pink Floyd by light year.
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There's no story here...I would have been curious to see Floyd vs Yes instead...
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Pink Floyd have never been among my favourites but in that case I vote for them .
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I can't understand how a band could ever be better than Robert Fripp, our only King.
He shouldn't partecipate, only arbitrate: this is a "battle" for the 2nd position.
Prog wouldn't exist without King Crimson.
 
P.S: rush??? is 2112 better than supper's ready?? no one could ever say that...
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Rush for me. Too bad they're going to lose.
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oooh.....this is a toughy for me.
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PF by 2 light years, i never been a rush fan, they are a good band, but not on the same level as floyd.
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Pink Flush
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PF. I acknowledge the skills of the members of Rush, but their music just doesn’t move me like PF’s music does, and I always wonder why they chose a 14 year old girl to sing LOL (my apologies to Geddy).
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Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:

There's no story here...I would have been curious to see Floyd vs Yes instead...


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Rush, but they will be suffocated by the behemoth that is Pink Floyd.Unhappy
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Originally posted by progknight94 progknight94 wrote:

I can't understand how a band could ever be better than Robert Fripp, our only King.
He shouldn't partecipate, only arbitrate: this is a "battle" for the 2nd position.
Prog wouldn't exist without King Crimson.
 
P.S: rush??? is 2112 better than supper's ready?? no one could ever say that...


2112 is better than Supper's Ready Tongue
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Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

Originally posted by progknight94 progknight94 wrote:

I can't understand how a band could ever be better than Robert Fripp, our only King.
He shouldn't partecipate, only arbitrate: this is a "battle" for the 2nd position.
Prog wouldn't exist without King Crimson.
 
P.S: rush??? is 2112 better than supper's ready?? no one could ever say that...


2112 is better than Supper's Ready Tongue

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Pink Floyd.
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At first glance I thought "PF, of course" and then the pendulum started swinging. My favorite album from either is Hemispheres, but my desert island discs would also include The Wall. In individual songs PF has more of my faves. Both have a period of albums I enjoy and lots that I haven't gotten in to. Since I can't vote yet anyway, this one is easy. No vote. Approve


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