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Poll Question: Which band do you prefer?
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Genesis... the Gabriel era Genesis was pure classic from Trespass to Lamb, and are ranked among my top Prog Albums! Go Genesis!!! 
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Originally posted by The Wrinkler The Wrinkler wrote:

Genesis... the Gabriel era Genesis was pure classic from Trespass to Lamb, and are ranked among my top Prog Albums! Go Genesis!!! 
And what do you think about From Genesis To Revelation and post-Gabriel era?
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Crimso for me. Seen both live. I wish that I could have seen Peter era Genesis live. 
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Originally posted by crimhead crimhead wrote:

Crimso for me. Seen both live. I wish that I could have seen Peter era Genesis live. 

 

Is anybody here, seen (Gabriel era) Genesis live?
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Genesis easily. They have released some great albums, KC hasn't. 
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Originally posted by b4usleep b4usleep wrote:

Originally posted by crimhead crimhead wrote:

Crimso for me. Seen both live. I wish that I could have seen Peter era Genesis live. 

 

Is anybody here, seen (Gabriel era) Genesis live?



This is the only footage I know off, from the days they were wild and exciting!
And in Belgium Smile
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Oops, that didn't work Geek
Urls then

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3h4l9_genesis-live-1972-peter-gabriel-bel

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3h4su_genesis-live-1972-peter-gabriel-bel_music


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Originally posted by Bonnek Bonnek wrote:

 

This is the only footage I know off, from the days they were wild and exciting!
And in Belgium Smile


I've seen them live (in youtube)



makes me so sad to think what they become later Cry why didnt just they disbanded
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Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Originally posted by Varon Varon wrote:

As this site is called progarchives it's naturally that KC is leading. If it was called wonderful music archives I'm sure Genesis would win . But here "progressiveness" is more important than music's soul. Unfortunately.



There are one album bands here, one band with two fantastic studio releases, one of which is top 13.

Don't you believe that:
  1. Trespass
  2. Nursery Cryme 
  3. Foxtrot
  4. Selling England by the pound
  5. The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway
  6. A Trick of the Tail
  7. Wind & Wuthering
Are enough to deserve to be called an amazing Prog band, specially when 2 of them are among the top 5 and the rest (Except W&W) are in the Top 100% of Prog Archives while only 3 KC are in the same list and far away?

Iván


Of course I believe ! For me Genesis is much more progressive than KC! But here almost everyone who votes for KC argues his choice saying "its the most progressive band"  . But  progressivenes itself isn't very important   feature ! It says nothing about a Music . For example, Wagner is more "prog" than Tchaikovsky but we all understand who is better composer Wink .
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Originally posted by Varon Varon wrote:

 
Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Originally posted by Varon Varon wrote:

As this site is called progarchives it's naturally that KC is leading. If it was called wonderful music archives I'm sure Genesis would win . But here "progressiveness" is more important than music's soul. Unfortunately.



There are one album bands here, one band with two fantastic studio releases, one of which is top 13.

Don't you believe that:
  1. Trespass
  2. Nursery Cryme 
  3. Foxtrot
  4. Selling England by the pound
  5. The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway
  6. A Trick of the Tail
  7. Wind & Wuthering
Are enough to deserve to be called an amazing Prog band, specially when 2 of them are among the top 5 and the rest (Except W&W) are in the Top 100% of Prog Archives while only 3 KC are in the same list and far away?

Iván


Of course I believe ! For me Genesis is much more progressive than KC! But here almost everyone who votes for KC argues his choice saying "its the most progressive band"  . But  progressivenes itself isn't very important   feature ! It says nothing about a Music . For example, Wagner is more "prog" than Tchaikovsky but we all understand who is better composer Wink .


Wagner by a considerable distance.
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Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by Varon Varon wrote:

 
Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Originally posted by Varon Varon wrote:

As this site is called progarchives it's naturally that KC is leading. If it was called wonderful music archives I'm sure Genesis would win . But here "progressiveness" is more important than music's soul. Unfortunately.



There are one album bands here, one band with two fantastic studio releases, one of which is top 13.

Don't you believe that:
  1. Trespass
  2. Nursery Cryme 
  3. Foxtrot
  4. Selling England by the pound
  5. The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway
  6. A Trick of the Tail
  7. Wind & Wuthering
Are enough to deserve to be called an amazing Prog band, specially when 2 of them are among the top 5 and the rest (Except W&W) are in the Top 100% of Prog Archives while only 3 KC are in the same list and far away?

Iván


Of course I believe ! For me Genesis is much more progressive than KC! But here almost everyone who votes for KC argues his choice saying "its the most progressive band"  . But  progressivenes itself isn't very important   feature ! It says nothing about a Music . For example, Wagner is more "prog" than Tchaikovsky but we all understand who is better composer Wink .


Wagner by a considerable distance.


Obviously Wagner by miles and miles.
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Originally posted by b4usleep b4usleep wrote:

Originally posted by crimhead crimhead wrote:

Crimso for me. Seen both live. I wish that I could have seen Peter era Genesis live. 

 

Is anybody here, seen (Gabriel era) Genesis live?


I saw the 1982 reunion Six Of The Best at Milton Keynes Bowl, arranged after Gabriel's WOMAD project went tits up. It chucked it down all day, we had to put up with Jonathon King (Angry), and, by the band's own admission, the musical performance was not of the greatest standard. However, as a nostalgia fest, it worked a great deal of magic and it remains one of my all time favourite gigs.
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Of course I believe ! For me Genesis is much more progressive than KC! But here almost everyone who votes for KC argues his choice saying "its the most progressive band"  . But  progressivenes itself isn't very important   feature ! It says nothing about a Music . For example, Wagner is more "prog" than Tchaikovsky but we all understand who is better composer Wink .

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Wagner by a considerable distance.
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Obviously Wagner by miles and miles.
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Obviously Tchaikovsky by light year. I like his Slavonic feeling and congenial tunes.
On the other way, Wagner was anti-Semite incidentally. And his compositions sounds very pompously even large to me. 


Edited by Gandalff - November 11 2010 at 12:17
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OMG! Wagner was anti-Semitic? (stupid term)...I must stop liking his music immediately!
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Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

OMG! Wagner was anti-Semitic? (stupid term)...I must stop liking his music immediately!

Wikipedia proves it Wink :
Wagner's writings on race and his antisemitism[171] reflected some trends of thought in Germany during the 19th century.
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Originally posted by Varon Varon wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

OMG! Wagner was anti-Semitic? (stupid term)...I must stop liking his music immediately!

Wikipedia proves it Wink :
Wagner's writings on race and his antisemitism[171] reflected some trends of thought in Germany during the 19th century.

I wasn't denying it.
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Writer of music held beliefs that I find distasteful
ERGO
The music is rubbish.

OY, such nonsense people try to pass off as logic these days.
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Writer of music held beliefs that I find distasteful
ERGO
The music is rubbish.

OY, such nonsense people try to pass off as logic these days.
 
I´ve meant that I dislike Wagner´s music due to its pomp and pretentiousness especially. The unexceptionable fact about his anti-semitism only confirms my belief but it´s not the main reason.
 
His music isn´t rubbish but not my cup of tea.
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for your info my good friend , King Crimson , Genesis , Pink Floyd , Jethro Tull , Van Der Graaf , ELP , and so many others cannot compete , but albums can ! so no vote from me ! Genesis & King Crimson have the same value to me /
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Originally posted by Gandalff Gandalff wrote:

Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

Writer of music held beliefs that I find distasteful
ERGO
The music is rubbish.

OY, such nonsense people try to pass off as logic these days.
 
I´ve meant that I dislike Wagner´s music due to its pomp and pretentiousness especially. The unexceptionable fact about his anti-semitism only confirms my belief but it´s not the main reason.
 
His music isn´t rubbish but not my cup of tea.
A prog rocker who dont like "pomp and pretentiousness " wooooow! I think your on the wrong forum, go and listen to your unpretentious punk rock then or something... Wink
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