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Cool.  It's just I've always liked Obsidian but disliked Bethedsa.   I hated Oblivion.

Edited by James - October 22 2010 at 15:20

From what I've seen, it certainly looks much better than Oblivion but I'm still not sure...

Not at all.  Computer Game popularity is not like Music popularity.  I just don't like it.

himtroy wrote: James wrote: Has anyone played Fallout: New Vegas yet?  I'm curious as it's made by Obsidian and written by some of my favourite RPG writers. I've never played Fallout 3 but maybe tempted to if this is good. Just get Fallout 3 first.  It's basically the exact same thing in a different setting.  I'd say other than the fact that it's new to me New Vegas is NO better than 3.  And you can get 3 for so much cheaper....plus then when you like it you can move onto New Vegas.  (as of now Fallout 3 is my favorite game of all time, I'll get back to you after playing more New Vegas.)

NV weaves an interesting tale; FO3 is just dead inside. If you're playing for story, don't even touch FO3.

Who plays open-world rpg's for the story anyway?

TheProgtologist wrote: James wrote: It's Obsidian, so it must have a decent story and characterisation by default, yes?  That's what it's all about for me.  Good gameplay is good too, mind you.   I can't understand the love for Obsidian.What have they done that's good?KOTOR II and Neverwinter Nights 2 were mediocre sequels of really good games and Alpha Protocol was just bad.Plus by all reports New Vegas is LOADED with glitches,so that doesn't say much for the developer.

KOTOR is my all-time favourite game, althoug Obsidian hasn't really impressed me much other than that.

Like I mentioned in the shred, NV is insanely buggy, and quite nearly unplayable on some nVidia GPU's. Whenever there's an NPC in-frame for those GPU's, the FPS drops down to about 10-15, regardless of other system specs. A friend of mine says it's unplayable right now for him, after having spent $90 on it.

I've played the xbox version, which was alright, although still seemed too much like FO3 to be considered a new game, and the bugs were super noticeable/irritating on that version too. From what I've seen/played/heard so far, you're essentially paying for a mod beta, as far as quality goes.

TheClosing wrote: progkidjoel wrote: KOTOR is my all-time favourite game, althoug Obsidian hasn't really impressed me much other than that. Like I mentioned in the shred, NV is insanely buggy, and quite nearly unplayable on some nVidia GPU's. Whenever there's an NPC in-frame for those GPU's, the FPS drops down to about 10-15, regardless of other system specs. A friend of mine says it's unplayable right now for him, after having spent $90 on it.  I've played the xbox version, which was alright, although still seemed too much like FO3 to be considered a new game, and the bugs were super noticeable/irritating on that version too. From what I've seen/played/heard so far, you're essentially paying for a mod beta, as far as quality goes. KOTOR = Bioware KOTOR 2 = Obsidian  How much worse can NV be than 3 as far as bugs go? Fallout 3 had the worst bugs out of any game I've played in 22 years. I lost ten hours due to a game ending bug and had to start from scratch. I encountered another game ending bug the second play through, but luckily I knew better and had made saves like crazy.

Oh, that explains a lot then
A lot worse, seriously. The first time my friend launched the disc on his 360, the first NPC's head was spinning around, like in this video, and it happens with about half the other NPC's in the forced conversations.


And there's a plague of other problems, like textures which don't show up, disappearing characters, Deathclaws which teleport when there's no need (I know that NPC's/enemy characters will usually teleport when stuck on scenery, but these literally end up on opposite sides of areas and stuff like that) and hands don't show up when using some of the iron sights.

They've also done some fairly lame stuff to stretch the game out, like requiring 2,000 caps to enter the vegas strip, and doing a quest which is way above the skills of most players so far to get in otherwise.

I thought Fallout 3 was fine, to be honest - quite buggy, but it didn't really hamper the gameplay IMO. This is literally like a bad joke it's so unplayable in parts.

TheClosing wrote: progkidjoel wrote: KOTOR is my all-time favourite game, althoug Obsidian hasn't really impressed me much other than that. Like I mentioned in the shred, NV is insanely buggy, and quite nearly unplayable on some nVidia GPU's. Whenever there's an NPC in-frame for those GPU's, the FPS drops down to about 10-15, regardless of other system specs. A friend of mine says it's unplayable right now for him, after having spent $90 on it.  I've played the xbox version, which was alright, although still seemed too much like FO3 to be considered a new game, and the bugs were super noticeable/irritating on that version too. From what I've seen/played/heard so far, you're essentially paying for a mod beta, as far as quality goes. KOTOR = Bioware KOTOR 2 = Obsidian  How much worse can NV be than 3 as far as bugs go? Fallout 3 had the worst bugs out of any game I've played in 22 years. I lost ten hours due to a game ending bug and had to start from scratch. I encountered another game ending bug the second play through, but luckily I knew better and had made saves like crazy.

James wrote: Cool.  It's just I've always liked Obsidian but disliked Bethedsa.   I hated Oblivion.

Oblivion is one of the best games I have played lately.

I still ned to check Fallout 3, though.

progkidjoel wrote: Sweet, just found my Warcraft 3 game disc. Reinstalling now

Wanna dota joel?

TheProgtologist wrote: I bought Fallout 3 not too long ago and have not encountered one bug or glitch yet.

Edited by TheClosing - October 22 2010 at 20:34