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octopus-4
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Posted: September 15 2010 at 06:51 |
Hapy to discover that I didn't vote yet. YES and 61 to 60 .
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Gillywibble
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Posted: September 15 2010 at 07:23 |
Have to vote for Genesis. Both fantastic but early Genesis just wins it for me.
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Anirml
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Posted: September 15 2010 at 07:59 |
Genesis, Yes and King Crimson are the best bands of Prog Rock imo.
Voting Yes because they are behind Genesis with two votes.
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Roj
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Posted: September 15 2010 at 08:01 |
I'll have a go too .
Yes > From Genesis to Revelation (neither is great )
Time and a Word < Trespass
The Yes Album > Nursery Cryme
Fragile = Foxtrot
Close to the Edge < Selling England by the Pound (Genesis' best)
Tales from Topographic Oceans > The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway (both brilliant)
Relayer < Trick of the Tail
Going for the One > Wind & Wuthering (both great, but this is Yes' best album )
Tormato < And Then There Were Three
Drama > Duke
I won't bother comparing individual albums in the pop era, though I easily prefer Genesis in that era.
Overall my choice is definitely Yes. I just feel there's much more emotion and intensity in their music, and that decides it for me.
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digdug
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Posted: September 15 2010 at 08:19 |
GENESIS
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YES
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ERROR
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CANNOT VOTE
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Prog On!
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kole
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Posted: September 15 2010 at 08:24 |
Genesis for me.
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thellama73
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Posted: September 15 2010 at 10:07 |
Wow, this is going to be a squeaker. My vote goes to Yes.
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Magic Mountain
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Posted: September 15 2010 at 10:16 |
Obviously these are two of the greatest symphonic prog bands ever. I have the complete discographies of both bands. Since there is a gun to my head, I chose Yes.
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lazland
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Posted: September 15 2010 at 11:00 |
Blimey, a really tight one Yes were my introduction to prog. Genesis followed very shortly behind. Both are exceptional bands. Oh God, this is difficult Okay, I'll look at the number of stinkers in the catalogue. For Genesis, the second side of Genesis was appalling. That's about it, really. For Yes, there was Open Your Eyes, Drama (sorry), and a lot of Union to shy away from. On that basis, Genesis just about gets my vote.
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Progfan1958
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Posted: September 15 2010 at 11:26 |
My, both are superb bands when at their peak. But for overall contributions and staying power I go with Yes. In various incarnations they've put out decent ( and sometimes stellar ) albums in the 70's, 80's, 90's ,and 00's. There's even the possibility of more to come !
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Epignosis
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Posted: September 15 2010 at 11:30 |
lazland wrote:
Blimey, a really tight one
Yes were my introduction to prog. Genesis followed very shortly behind. Both are exceptional bands.
Oh God, this is difficult
Okay, I'll look at the number of stinkers in the catalogue.
For Genesis, the second side of Genesis was appalling. That's about it, really.
For Yes, there was Open Your Eyes, Drama (sorry), and a lot of Union to shy away from.
On that basis, Genesis just about gets my vote.
| That's a rather odd way to decide. After all, Yes has 18 studio albums while Genesis only has 15. Ah well, too late to convince you to change your mind now!
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Logan
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Posted: September 15 2010 at 11:47 |
Genesis for The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway.
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Roland113
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Posted: September 15 2010 at 12:25 |
This was an easy vote for me as Genesis has long been my favorite bands while Yes is one of those bands that you'd think I'd like, but time after time, they do little for me.
I recently found a special remastered edition of "Close to the Edge" at a used CD shop for five bucks. I thought, why not, I'll give it one more shot. I had listened to my Dad's original pressing many times in an attempt to 'get it' but failed. So, I bought the remaster and listened to it with an open mind. The next day I gave it to my Dad who was more than pleased to get the new version.
Furthermore, Genesis has at least three of my top ten favorite albums, possibly four. "A Trick of the Tail" has been my favorite album for years. "Selling England," and "The Lamb" are both in my top ten and a recent surge by "Wind and Wuthering" has it pushing against the top ten.
As I said, my vote easily goes to Genesis.
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mohaveman
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Posted: September 15 2010 at 14:13 |
Yes cuz of poppy Genesis era
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crimhead
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Posted: September 15 2010 at 14:29 |
As long as it is not Philesis era Genesis it gets my vote.
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TrevRockOne
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Posted: September 15 2010 at 14:30 |
To risk sounding like a sore whiney fanboy: does anyone else think that Genesis being the only band to appear in the topic title on the homepage may have skewed the results in their favor a bit. Although I love both bands, Yes is transcendent.
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thehallway
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Posted: September 15 2010 at 14:41 |
Epignosis wrote:
I could be wrong here, but from what I recall it seems to usually work out that in a Yes vs Genesis poll, Genesis prevails, while if you compare any specific albums (of comparable ratings) or any specific songs (of comparable importance), Yes prevails. |
Absolutely spot on, unfortunately.
Some people have issues with the personalities of Yessers, or hate Jon Anderson's voice (I've heard "emotionless" used so often, and I really don't understand that accusation).
Some people also use quality of melodies as an excuse for Genesis having worse musicians and less complex music, at the same time putting Yes in the "pretentious" category with ELP and the rest, just because they win in every field.
I'm not saying people who prefer Genesis are lying! Just that they will win because of personal reasons. Maybe they seem like a better band, but the MUSIC is usually inferior, as Epignosis pointed out.
Objectively, Yes have the edge (and Genesis are not even close to the edge....) .
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akamaisondufromage
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Posted: September 15 2010 at 14:47 |
thehallway wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
I could be wrong here, but from what I recall it seems to usually work out that in a Yes vs Genesis poll, Genesis prevails, while if you compare any specific albums (of comparable ratings) or any specific songs (of comparable importance), Yes prevails. |
Absolutely spot on, unfortunately.
Some people have issues with the personalities of Yessers, or hate Jon Anderson's voice (I've heard "emotionless" used so often, and I really don't understand that accusation).
Some people also use quality of melodies as an excuse for Genesis having worse musicians and less complex music, at the same time putting Yes in the "pretentious" category with ELP and the rest, just because they win in every field.
I'm not saying people who prefer Genesis are lying! Just that they will win because of personal reasons. Maybe they seem like a better band, but the MUSIC is usually inferior, as Epignosis pointed out.
Objectively, Yes have the edge (and Genesis are not even close to the edge....) . |
So I should decide on other than personal reasons?
Genesis (Or any other band) win because more people prefer their music ?
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Catcher10
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Posted: September 15 2010 at 14:52 |
I think Genesis has a better lineup album by album. Yes has this one gigantic behemoth of an album which most forums/polls conclude is missing something, it feels incomplete. I just can't vote on the strength of one album and really one song.
Anyhow I like both bands very much...but I always find myself listening and enjoying Genesis much more....I think I always will.
Genesis
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thehallway
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Posted: September 15 2010 at 14:54 |
akamaisondufromage wrote:
thehallway wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
I could be wrong here, but from what I recall it seems to usually work out that in a Yes vs Genesis poll, Genesis prevails, while if you compare any specific albums (of comparable ratings) or any specific songs (of comparable importance), Yes prevails. |
Absolutely spot on, unfortunately.
Some people have issues with the personalities of Yessers, or hate Jon Anderson's voice (I've heard "emotionless" used so often, and I really don't understand that accusation).
Some people also use quality of melodies as an excuse for Genesis having worse musicians and less complex music, at the same time putting Yes in the "pretentious" category with ELP and the rest, just because they win in every field.
I'm not saying people who prefer Genesis are lying! Just that they will win because of personal reasons. Maybe they seem like a better band, but the MUSIC is usually inferior, as Epignosis pointed out.
Objectively, Yes have the edge (and Genesis are not even close to the edge....) . |
So I should decide on other than personal reasons?
Genesis (Or any other band) win because more people prefer their music ? |
By no means was I advocating that people shouldn't vote in a personal way (I did!).
I was just expanding on the speculation that perhaps if there was some way of mesuring attributes such as virtuosity, quality and strength of harmony etc etc, Yes would win by being a more progressive band.
Genesis WILL win because of personal reasons, and that's okay, but as I said, objectively, Yes have the edge.
And yes, more people (on this site) prefer Genesis, and numbers are the only ingredient for the outcome of a poll.
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