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James wrote: Yes, not only play it as each class but play it through as each class with each gender as well as both good and evil. There's a lot of game there to miss. Oh and also play as a thief at least once as there are specialist quests in Denerim.

Any class can learn Stealing, and you can get the quest if anyone in your party has the skill (doesn't have to be the Warden).

TBH, you can do almost everything in the game in 2 playthroughs: a rogue (I recommend human noble for its endgame option) and a mage, one male and one female. Warriors only net you achievements, really. After that, just run through the other 4 origins and you've seen just about all the game has to offer.

progkidjoel wrote: ^I wasn't overly impressed by either, but they're pretty fun games. I have to check out Bioshock 2, actually.

It's kinda like BioShock, except with the heart and soul ripped out.

himtroy wrote: Fallout 3.  I started it about a week ago and have decided it's the greatest thing that ever happened.  I can spend hours not progressing the story at all and just exploring the world and fighting all kinds of crazy stuff.  If I had a life this would surely be taking priority over it.

Been finishing it up, actually. Running around the Wasteland with my squad of Charon, Dogmeat, Cross, and Fawkes. It's shorter than Oblivion -- I've done all the sidequests, DLC, and main quest up to the very last regular (pre-Broken Steel) mission in about 150 hours -- but still fun. Mods are a must, though. I don't know what I'd do without Tougher Traders, No Respawn, Double Damage, and More Hairstyles. Actually, I do know: I'd be running around spending all day killing the same raiders and repeatedly resurrecting Crazy Wolfgang with the console, all while wearing a horrendously-ugly 'do.

Gamemako wrote: James wrote: Yes, not only play it as each class but play it through as each class with each gender as well as both good and evil. There's a lot of game there to miss. Oh and also play as a thief at least once as there are specialist quests in Denerim. Any class can learn Stealing, and you can get the quest if anyone in your party has the skill (doesn't have to be the Warden). TBH, you can do almost everything in the game in 2 playthroughs: a rogue (I recommend human noble for its endgame option) and a mage, one male and one female. Warriors only net you achievements, really. After that, just run through the other 4 origins and you've seen just about all the game has to offer.

That isn't the case.  You have to play as a rogue (or have sufficient stealing and stealth skills as your Warden) in order to do those thieving quests (Slim Couldry's) in Denerim.  I don't mean the Crows quests.  The Crows quests can be completed with Zevran in your party.

As I'm currently a Dwarf Noble warrior, I don't really need those skills, so I cannot do his quests until I play as a rogue.

Playing as different origins also means different reactions from NPCs.  For instance, Gorim will give you the best discount in the game if you play as a Dwarf Noble.

Also, playing as a Dwarf Noble gives you a lot of backstory in regards to Orzammer.  Plus it's the best origin to play as.


Edited by James - August 31 2010 at 09:28

James wrote: Gamemako wrote: James wrote: Yes, not only play it as each class but play it through as each class with each gender as well as both good and evil. There's a lot of game there to miss. Oh and also play as a thief at least once as there are specialist quests in Denerim. Any class can learn Stealing, and you can get the quest if anyone in your party has the skill (doesn't have to be the Warden). TBH, you can do almost everything in the game in 2 playthroughs: a rogue (I recommend human noble for its endgame option) and a mage, one male and one female. Warriors only net you achievements, really. After that, just run through the other 4 origins and you've seen just about all the game has to offer. That isn't the case.  You have to play as a rogue (or have sufficient stealing and stealth skills as your Warden) in order to do those thieving quests (Slim Couldry's) in Denerim.  I don't mean the Crows quests.  The Crows quests can be completed with Zevran in your party. As I'm currently a Dwarf Noble warrior, I don't really need those skills, so I cannot do his quests until I play as a rogue. Playing as different origins also means different reactions from NPCs.  For instance, Gorim will give you the best discount in the game if you play as a Dwarf Noble. Also, playing as a Dwarf Noble gives you a lot of backstory in regards to Orzammer.  Plus it's the best origin to play as.

So I started off with the best origin, who knows where I'll go next playthrough.  It might take me a while to get to that point since I force myself to not play during the week and I don't play on weekends if something comes up involving friends.

James wrote: That isn't the case.  You have to play as a rogue (or have sufficient stealing and stealth skills as your Warden) in order to do those thieving quests (Slim Couldry's) in Denerim.  I don't mean the Crows quests.  The Crows quests can be completed with Zevran in your party. As I'm currently a Dwarf Noble warrior, I don't really need those skills, so I cannot do his quests until I play as a rogue. Playing as different origins also means different reactions from NPCs.  For instance, Gorim will give you the best discount in the game if you play as a Dwarf Noble. Also, playing as a Dwarf Noble gives you a lot of backstory in regards to Orzammer.  Plus it's the best origin to play as.

Actually, I checked the wiki and you're right. You need at least level 1 stealing on the Warden to do all of Slim's quests or level 1 Stealth (rogue only) to do half of them. Still, you don't have to be a rogue to get Stealing. As for the Crows, you don't need Zevran at all for those quests, though he does offer some interesting dialogue if you keep him around.

The Dwarf Noble origin is nearly ignored when you get to Orzammar. It's quite awkward. You'd think that a Casteless's brand would also come into play (Dwarf Commoner), but alas, the nobles are still willing to speak to you. The origin that has the most impact on how people view you is elf mage, as they both fear you for being a mage and can't stop calling you "knife-ears" -- but even that really doesn't move many.

Also, the best origins are City Elf (most satisfying in and of itself -- especially with a certain dialogue option in Ostagar) and Human Noble (gives a good drive to the game). I think the two Dwarf origins are pretty weak, though not as bad as the Dalish Elf disaster.

James wrote: The Human Noble origin is also good though and I think it's the canon origin too.

It is not. David Gaider, lead writer, has claimed that there will be no canon Origin. In DA2, the Warden will likely be referred to simply as The Warden, the Hero of Ferelden, or perhaps by an imported last name (all 6 are fixed).

Yeah, I've done just about everything there is to do in Dragon Age. If you need help with anything (character builds, advice, etc.), feel free to message me.

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himtroy wrote: Ha, the female haircuts are HORRIBLE! Theres only about 2 that make it even look like its a girl.  That being said, my female character looks damn sexy.

No kidding. This is my before and after for hairstyles mod. I was even wearing specific (low-DR) gear to make myself look less lame before.

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Edited by Gamemako - August 31 2010 at 12:28

I have More Hairstyles for DA and it really improves my experience as well.  I'm still waiting on Qwinn's fixpack for 1.04 though!

so uh, any of you that play shooters instead of rpgs want to play some Alien Swarm with me?  We could get  together a 4-man PA team

Just replayed Silent Hill 2- the final scene with Angela on the stairs is one of the most haunting scenes in video games. Also it's interesting now I've listened to Nurse With Wound, boy were the Silent Hill composers ripping him off. In fact the whole J-horror sound thing in movies and games seems directly borrowed from NWW. I wonder if there's a direct link or if they come up with it independently.

Triceratopsoil wrote: so uh, any of you that play shooters instead of rpgs want to play some Alien Swarm with me?  We could get  together a 4-man PA team

Tested. A bit laggy, but works nonetheless. Ping is fine, but packet loss really hurts. Anyone else up for it? For those who don't know, Alien Swarm is free on Steam and is on the Source engine, so it'll run on older boxes just fine.

I really should play Alien Swarm since I made the steam account for it...

Also, finally began borderlands. Single player is a bit meh...but Im just leveling up so I wont be so pathetic when I play with Joel and KoS

James wrote: What's Alien Swarm exactly?  I do have Steam.

top-view shooter

http://www.alienswarm.com/