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NecronCommander
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Posted: August 14 2010 at 13:36 |
I like Pelican. It's feel-good music.
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Triceratopsoil
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Posted: August 14 2010 at 13:36 |
Ya I agree
you're listening to their only album I've heard
Edited by Triceratopsoil - August 14 2010 at 13:36
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The Sleepwalker
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Posted: August 14 2010 at 13:35 |
Pelican is yummie.
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Triceratopsoil
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Posted: August 14 2010 at 13:23 |
I only find that about Catch-33
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A Person
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Posted: August 14 2010 at 13:06 |
Halleluwah is basically the same thing for 18 minutes, how boring.
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SaltyJon
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Posted: August 14 2010 at 13:06 |
Music in Twelve Parts is 204min long, 12 sections of lengths 16-20m each...only subtle variation in any of the sections.
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The Sleepwalker
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Posted: August 14 2010 at 12:58 |
I once downloaded a Robert Fripp for free from the official website, and it's basically 60 minutes without any kind of variation.
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SaltyJon
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Posted: August 14 2010 at 12:56 |
Repetition gets a bit boring about halfway through Philip Glass's Music in Twelve Parts.
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NecronCommander
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Posted: August 14 2010 at 12:53 |
If I'm like, actively listening to music (like music and nothing else), then that's the only time I find major repetition to be boring.
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The Sleepwalker
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Posted: August 14 2010 at 12:50 |
Anthony H. wrote:
A common gripe. They intentionally utilize repetition as part of their style. But not everybody likes that style.
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I don't mind repetition, but only if it's used in certain ways, like the first 6 minutes of Kayo Dot's The Antique, which basically is only one riff. Maybe I haven't listened to enough Meshuggah to really get to know them, but I couldn't care all too much anyway.
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NecronCommander
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Posted: August 14 2010 at 12:50 |
Anthony H. wrote:
A common gripe. They intentionally utilize repetition as part of their style. But not everybody likes that style.
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I too find Meshuggah a little too repetitive at times, but it's not nearly enough to prevent me from listening to them.
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NecronCommander
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Posted: August 14 2010 at 12:47 |
Meshuggah aren't atonal.
All their music is based off of jazz and phrygian scales.
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Anthony H.
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Posted: August 14 2010 at 12:47 |
A common gripe. They intentionally utilize repetition as part of their style. But not everybody likes that style.
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horsewithteeth11
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Posted: August 14 2010 at 12:47 |
They're actually anything but repetitive, but I could understand someone saying that. Plus they're not a band I suspect a lot of people would like.
I need to go eat some lunch and do some other stuff, so I will be back later.
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The Sleepwalker
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Posted: August 14 2010 at 12:43 |
horsewithteeth11 wrote:
The Sleepwalker wrote:
Meshuggah could easily put me to sleep. |
You find them boring?
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I don't dislike them, but I don't find them very interesting either. From the stuff I've heard from them on youtube they are pretty repetitive.
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horsewithteeth11
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Posted: August 14 2010 at 12:42 |
The Sleepwalker wrote:
Meshuggah could easily put me to sleep. |
You find them boring?
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The Sleepwalker
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Posted: August 14 2010 at 12:41 |
Meshuggah could easily put me to sleep.
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horsewithteeth11
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Posted: August 14 2010 at 12:40 |
ptkc123 wrote:
horsewithteeth11 wrote:
I also don't understand why Tool gets praised so much for their use of mathematics. Meshuggah's use of math is much more complex and original IMO. And more of a mindf**k too.
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Yeah, but they're both praised for it... just Tool's more popular, that's all.
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That's because Tool still makes very melodic music, can be accessible at times (grunge influences), and has more mainstream appeal. Meshuggah abandons any traditional sense of melody and harmony in rock music, is atonal, is thrash-based, and is intentionally heavily inaccessible. That being said, I think Meshuggah is still more influential on metal than Tool, but I think Meshuggah's more influential than Metallica, so take that for what you will. See ya Jordan!
Edited by horsewithteeth11 - August 14 2010 at 12:41
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SaltyJon
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Posted: August 14 2010 at 12:38 |
Old speakers are re-attached. I want Z-5500s now, but I don't want to spend $325+ on them...
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NecronCommander
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Posted: August 14 2010 at 12:37 |
A Person wrote:
horsewithteeth11 wrote:
I also don't understand why Tool gets praised so much for their use of mathematics. Meshuggah's use of math is much more complex and original IMO. And more of a mindf**k too.
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What about Sleepytime Gorilla Museum? They write songs about math professors.
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Rofl.
Problem with Tool is, for some reason, they have a lot of crossover appeal.
I think what they did with the structure on Lateralus is f**king brilliant.
If we're comparing the degree of mathematics in each band, Tool would be Geometry Metal, and Meshuggah would be Calculus Metal.
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