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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 10 2010 at 12:58
Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:

Not sarcastic; I admit I chuckled a bit, then felt bad.

That's how it works. No one reads a joke and thinks to themselves, "Oh here's the part where I laugh, 'Ha Ha Ha.'" You read or hear it, laugh if it, for whatever reason, is funny. And then, when the joke starts to collide with the social norms ingrained in your brain, you may have a reaction that tells you you shouldn't find it funny and cut it out. Then you feel bad...maybe.

Like I said, there are reasons for laughing at what would otherwise be really terrible things outside the context of a joke.

Well I din't laugh at that joke but I'm not saying I don't laugh at sick jokes. I think I was a bit surprised to hear it in public thats all. It is the sort of joke I would make up though.Ermm
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 10 2010 at 13:27
In my opinion, almost all good jokes have some element of offensiveness or taboo to them. Jokes that try to be squeaky clean are almost never funny, witness popsicle stick humor. However, a joke is not funny SOLELY because it is offensive.  The dead baby jokes etc. for the most part don't even try to be clever, but merely rely on shock value, which in my opinion is lazy and tasteless.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 10 2010 at 13:29
Joke is a joke.
Some are horrible but eh, human nature, all that stuff.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 10 2010 at 13:53
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by The Truth The Truth wrote:

I don't like ones about Jesus being crucified because they're just senseless such as Jesus walking up to a hotel clerk putting three nails on the desk asking if he can "be put in for the night".

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'Senseless'?  seems pretty funny to me.  Which is what is important about a joke.  Unlike the Pakistan flooding 'joke' which is just nasty and not a joke because a joke has to be funny on some level or other. 
 
Nearly all jokes can be offensive to someone as they nearlly all have a 'victim'.  What is important to me is what lies behind the joke what is the intention of the joke teller -  I would give an example but i can never remember jokes.
 
Now I'm angry cos I can't think of a single joke of any variety Confused
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 10 2010 at 13:55
Originally posted by The Truth The Truth wrote:

I don't like ones about Jesus being crucified because they're just senseless such as Jesus walking up to a hotel clerk putting three nails on the desk asking if he can "be put in for the night".


Those make me LOL
And they make sense to me?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 10 2010 at 15:10
I remember that great scene in The Office when he's in the middle of telling the "black man's penis" joke and a black colleague wanders in unawares and asks to be filled in on the gag and David has no idea what to do.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 10 2010 at 15:13
Racist jokes, but those are mild...

If you really want bad taste humor can always go with holocaust/oven jokes
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 10 2010 at 15:17
I remember the popular causal game Diner Dash where you had to quickly suit and serve patrons in a little cafe. Different customer types had to be seated in different places and so on. The challenge was in dividing your time between all the different areas of the cafe to serve everybody before they got angry.
 
We came up with Deathcamp Dash where you were an officer in Auschwitz and you had to quickly consign all the inmates to their fates, some in the showers, some in the oven and so on while also finding time to sort through the corpses for gold teeth and beat people so they continued digging their own graves and so on.
 
We're terrible people.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 10 2010 at 15:41
Originally posted by Mr ProgFreak Mr ProgFreak wrote:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0092610/



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When I saw this thread title I knew I had to post this.
Curse you for beating me to it AngryLOL
 
Still the best Peter Jackson film, by the way


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 10 2010 at 16:22
The worst thing I've ever done personally was when I was on a student magazine- they generally are very edgy and provocative anyway. It was in the aftermath of 9/11 and several of us bridled at how the disaster's victims were being labeled "heroes" by the press. How were you a hero if you happened to be killed during a terrorist strike? You were simply in the wrong place at the wrong time and it cheapened the term.
We wrote a piece that was beyond offensive from the perspective of an office worker's final thoughts as the plane struck the building and he eventually jumped to his death, sh*tting his pants on the way down. The tone couldn't have been more vicious and unflattering and disrespectful. I don't think it had anything to do with 9/11 at all, I think we were just using that as a platform to show how badass we were. People were roaring with laughter when it was read out at an editorial meeting but nevertheless they declined to print, probably wisely. And this is the same magazine that caused a national stir by printing a guide on how to rob banks using the campus bank as a case study.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 10 2010 at 17:06
Originally posted by Textbook Textbook wrote:

The worst thing I've ever done personally was when I was on a student magazine- they generally are very edgy and provocative anyway. It was in the aftermath of 9/11 and several of us bridled at how the disaster's victims were being labeled "heroes" by the press. How were you a hero if you happened to be killed during a terrorist strike? You were simply in the wrong place at the wrong time and it cheapened the term.
We wrote a piece that was beyond offensive from the perspective of an office worker's final thoughts as the plane struck the building and he eventually jumped to his death, sh*tting his pants on the way down. The tone couldn't have been more vicious and unflattering and disrespectful. I don't think it had anything to do with 9/11 at all, I think we were just using that as a platform to show how badass we were. People were roaring with laughter when it was read out at an editorial meeting but nevertheless they declined to print, probably wisely. And this is the same magazine that caused a national stir by printing a guide on how to rob banks using the campus bank as a case study.


Salient.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 10 2010 at 17:07
Originally posted by Textbook Textbook wrote:

The worst thing I've ever done personally was when I was on a student magazine- they generally are very edgy and provocative anyway. It was in the aftermath of 9/11 and several of us bridled at how the disaster's victims were being labeled "heroes" by the press. How were you a hero if you happened to be killed during a terrorist strike? You were simply in the wrong place at the wrong time and it cheapened the term.
We wrote a piece that was beyond offensive from the perspective of an office worker's final thoughts as the plane struck the building and he eventually jumped to his death, sh*tting his pants on the way down. The tone couldn't have been more vicious and unflattering and disrespectful. I don't think it had anything to do with 9/11 at all, I think we were just using that as a platform to show how badass we were. People were roaring with laughter when it was read out at an editorial meeting but nevertheless they declined to print, probably wisely. And this is the same magazine that caused a national stir by printing a guide on how to rob banks using the campus bank as a case study.

I share your thoughts.

I feel bad about it sometimes, but I definitely don't have very nice thoughts on 9/11.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 10 2010 at 17:50
Originally posted by The Truth The Truth wrote:

I don't like ones about Jesus being crucified because they're just senseless such as Jesus walking up to a hotel clerk putting three nails on the desk asking if he can "be put in for the night".

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 10 2010 at 17:52
Originally posted by manofmystery manofmystery wrote:

Originally posted by Mr ProgFreak Mr ProgFreak wrote:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0092610/



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When I saw this thread title I knew I had to post this.
Curse you for beating me to it AngryLOL
 
Still the best Peter Jackson film, by the way

I suspected it was Jackson mainly because of the hard close-ups on the eyes. Just like the killer character in The Lovely Bones. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 10 2010 at 18:36
"Tragedy is when I cut my finger.  Comedy is when you fall into an open sewer and die."  --  Mel Brooks


"Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard." -- H.L. Mencken
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 10 2010 at 21:33
There's also the type of humour where no joke is made, but a real life performance by somebody is proliferated by media because people find it amusing. This is also a source of many memes, good examples being Star Wars Kid, Boom Goes The Dynamite, The Battle For Amber Lamps, Miss South Carolina Teen etc etc
 
Some people find something more sinister going on here because they find this cruel. This is not a case of some jokester choosing to say something offensive, this is a case of taking something which another person did in earnest and then holding it up and going "This is stupid and deserves derision." This is nothing new but it seems to have become a lot more common since the internets. Also, it seems to have lost its satirical edge where now it is simply "for the lols" rather than making any sort of point like the founding father's of satire would have done. And the problem with this is that the laughter becomes an attack. To laugh at the people involved is to say "You suck". "Homo Kid" had no point at all but went some way towards wrecking a young man's life.
 
The whole "so bad it's good" ethos, perhaps most popularly expressed in the evergreen "Worst Album Artwork Ever" craze, also comes under this umbrella. (Laughter at physical accidents such as Afro Ninja and America's Funniest Home Videos doesn't really count because they are accidents- you're not attacking the character of the person involved by laughing because accidents can happen to anyone.)
 
You might also like to read up about the infamous "An Hero" meme where a young man's suicide became a big joke on the internet.
 
 
Unlike our non-existent boy with leukemia in the OP, we now have an actual seventh grader with a name who shot himself in the head. And people still laughed.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 11 2010 at 02:38
I am a book of racist/offensive jokes.

Courtesy of a very long bus ride and this....colorful kid that passed them all onto me.

Anyway, the classic bad taste jokes..racist, dead baby, cancer, religious, 9/11 Id imagine is the most shock currently, at least in the US. Though tis pretty evident even that is becoming more acceptable.

Oh, randomly thought of those NASA jokes
Such as the classic: What does NASA stand for? Need Another Seven Astronauts.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 11 2010 at 02:39
Originally posted by Textbook Textbook wrote:

There's also the type of humour where no joke is made, but a real life performance by somebody is proliferated by media because people find it amusing. This is also a source of many memes, good examples being Star Wars Kid, Boom Goes The Dynamite, The Battle For Amber Lamps, Miss South Carolina Teen etc etc
 
Some people find something more sinister going on here because they find this cruel. This is not a case of some jokester choosing to say something offensive, this is a case of taking something which another person did in earnest and then holding it up and going "This is stupid and deserves derision." This is nothing new but it seems to have become a lot more common since the internets. Also, it seems to have lost its satirical edge where now it is simply "for the lols" rather than making any sort of point like the founding father's of satire would have done. And the problem with this is that the laughter becomes an attack. To laugh at the people involved is to say "You suck". "Homo Kid" had no point at all but went some way towards wrecking a young man's life.
 
The whole "so bad it's good" ethos, perhaps most popularly expressed in the evergreen "Worst Album Artwork Ever" craze, also comes under this umbrella. (Laughter at physical accidents such as Afro Ninja and America's Funniest Home Videos doesn't really count because they are accidents- you're not attacking the character of the person involved by laughing because accidents can happen to anyone.)
 
You might also like to read up about the infamous "An Hero" meme where a young man's suicide became a big joke on the internet.
 
 
Unlike our non-existent boy with leukemia in the OP, we now have an actual seventh grader with a name who shot himself in the head. And people still laughed.


Yup, much as I partake in the 4chan world...that one really is sick when you think about it.
An Hero, a lulzy term now thrown around all the time, based off an actual suicide...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 11 2010 at 03:18

Analysts of the "An Hero" joke could argue that's what going on initially was not all that sick. Originally the derision was not aimed at the suicide but at his friend's dumb response to his suicide which claimed he was a hero for having the courage to kill himself. However, as is usually the case, people who joined in on the joke later lost sight of this and started making the suicide himself the target.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 11 2010 at 03:21
Originally posted by Textbook Textbook wrote:

Analysts of the "An Hero" joke could argue that's what going on initially was not all that sick. Originally the derision was not aimed at the suicide but at his friend's dumb response to his suicide which claimed he was a hero for having the courage to kill himself. However, as is usually the case, people who joined in on the joke later lost sight of this and started making the suicide himself the target.



No for sure, after all like 80% of the stuff on 4chan (which tends to be the source of all internet memes) just makes fun of mistakes/corrupts words. But yeah, more than the grammatical error, "an hero" is now indeed about the suicide.
We all know the joke about committing suicide to become "an hero" its certainly not making fun of the grammar anymore.

It is a lil sick, but then again....I suppose it is a joke.
Eh, who knows?
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