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The Truth
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Epignosis
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A Person
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TheGazzardian
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Posted: August 03 2010 at 11:52 |
So far I have failed to penetrate this one ... gonna give it a serious try today.
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: August 03 2010 at 12:10 |
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Noak
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Posted: August 03 2010 at 12:12 |
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Queen By-Tor
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Posted: August 03 2010 at 12:26 |
Because it's been a while since I threw on some Crimso'
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Queen By-Tor
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Posted: August 03 2010 at 12:50 |
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WalterDigsTunes
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Posted: August 03 2010 at 12:52 |
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Its because of these goons that I didn't label Disc 1 of The Collectable King Crimson, Vol. 2 as a "Discipline" CD
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Queen By-Tor
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Posted: August 03 2010 at 12:53 |
...what?
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WalterDigsTunes
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Posted: August 03 2010 at 12:57 |
See disc 1: For the first few dates, the 80s version of KC went under the name Discipline. Naturally, the unoriginal new band could do nothing but steal from the mighty Fripp (surprise surprise).
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Queen By-Tor
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Posted: August 03 2010 at 13:21 |
your logic is flawed in that that collection was released under the name King Crimson, tour name or not. Only a true elitist would throw flak at a band he's never listened to because they disabled him to have a 100% proper labeling system on iTunes. But calling you an elitist would just be a compliment in your eyes, so I'm stuck
Edited by King By-Tor - August 03 2010 at 13:21
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WalterDigsTunes
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Posted: August 03 2010 at 13:24 |
The outfit playing in the 1981 recording is Discipline, not King Crimson. I had to resort to anachronisms because some hateful thieves of the present day decided to inflict this violence upon KC. I don't use iTunes, and I don't care about other people's lack of standards when it comes to music. What really grinds my gears is when the fools that pretend to make "music" today do so by pilfering from the legacy of real artists.
Say "NO!" to new music.
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Queen By-Tor
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Posted: August 03 2010 at 13:30 |
How can you say they pilfer when the band's name is just paying homage and you've never heard the music so you can't say that it's ripping off KC.
Ignorance is bliss, I suppose.
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Queen By-Tor
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Posted: August 03 2010 at 13:33 |
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WalterDigsTunes
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Posted: August 03 2010 at 13:34 |
Good to see you're listening to the real thing. Rock on.
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TheGazzardian
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Posted: August 03 2010 at 13:34 |
WalterDigsTunes wrote:
The outfit playing in the 1981 recording is Discipline, not King Crimson. I had to resort to anachronisms because some hateful thieves of the present day decided to inflict this violence upon KC. I don't use iTunes, and I don't care about other people's lack of standards when it comes to music. What really grinds my gears is when the fools that pretend to make "music" today do so by pilfering from the legacy of real artists.
Say "NO!" to new music.
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Oh Walter, you're so funny.
I've tried to figure out your whole post-89 phobia and I can't. Even though I was once similar (when I was into exclusively classic rock, I used to think it had something "special" that modern music lacked. But then I listened to modern music and got confused because nothing was lacking!) I just can't make sense of it. xD
I mean, your conditions are so explicit too. It's '89 or nothing. But what about a band that started recording in '85 but it took them five years to get their album out? Do they have as much props as a band that recorded an album in the last month of '89 and released it before the end of the month, or are they still out?
What about a band that released their first album on December 31, '89? Are they more valid than a band that released their first on January 1st, '90?
What changed that made the new bands suck? Is it the pop culture that they were raised with? Let's say most bands start at 20-something. That would mean that the pop culture from '70-'90 must have sucked, because the people who grew up with that pop culture can't make original music anymore. But that's the period that you claim to love.
And if the pop culture is the problem, what about bands started by 40-somethings?
No - I just don't understand you, Walter. And I think I've given it way too much thought. xD
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Queen By-Tor
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Posted: August 03 2010 at 13:49 |
WalterDigsTunes wrote:
Good to see you're listening to the real thing. Rock on.
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Oh buzz off. This is the first time I've listened ti Crimson in a couple of years and y'know why? I find them boring 9/10 times. I'd rather listen to Tool or Mars Volta or Devin Townsend - something with energy and an edge.
Edited by King By-Tor - August 03 2010 at 13:49
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The Truth
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Posted: August 03 2010 at 13:50 |
I love the new music is good V.S. Walter argument
I'm listening too:
Edited by The Truth - August 03 2010 at 13:52
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: August 03 2010 at 13:52 |
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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