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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 28 2010 at 23:45
Gentle Giant!

They're so simple, yet so amazingly great.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 28 2010 at 23:47
I don't really think so.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 28 2010 at 23:47
Poppy but not simple.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 29 2010 at 00:16
Gentle Giant and VDGG are far from simple.  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 29 2010 at 00:38
Originally posted by Easy Money Easy Money wrote:

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I agree. Mr. Brian Peter George St John Le Baptiste de la Salle Eno did do great simple music, many albums as amazing  Music for Airports, my lifetime fav ambiental album .


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 29 2010 at 00:40
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 29 2010 at 12:08
Alan Parsons Project is a great example even if they are not 100% prog.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 29 2010 at 12:12
Originally posted by BlindGuard BlindGuard wrote:

Alan Parsons Project is a great example even if they are not 100% prog.

I was going to post the same
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 29 2010 at 14:42
maybe Family.. but I have listened to just one record so I don't really know
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 29 2010 at 22:03
What? I always found Gentle Giant to be a really simple band. Confused
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 29 2010 at 22:22
Originally posted by CinemaZebra CinemaZebra wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 29 2010 at 22:23
How so?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 29 2010 at 22:24
What is meant by simple here?  If it's technicality, then a lot of classic prog is not so hard to play, certainly not in comparison to, say, technical metal.  If it's compositional complexity, in terms of structures that go beyond pop verse/chorus and use devices like counterpoint, I don't think anything that's as simple in that sense as basic rock and roll can be called prog.  It often is, however, because a lot of prog rock bands, then and now, made simple pop/rock songs which get called prog just because they are made by prog rock bands. 

 As for Porcupine Tree,  I am not familiar with much of their psychedelic phase, but I wouldn't call any of the albums from Lightbulb Sun to Incident prog. It may be 'progressive' in relation to the current mainstream trends, that is a different concept altogether.  

Gentle Giant, by and large, is compositionally very involved.  Wink  Maybe you - Disgruntled Porcupine - are referring to that you did not find it hard to assimilate those songs.  But there's no reason why something that's not compositionally basic should not be accessible, it probably indicates great compositional skill, if anything.  Conversely, something may sound very out there and 'tough' simply because a lot of the transitions are tangential and/or reek of pastiche, it may not in totality be very involved.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 29 2010 at 22:39
Originally posted by DisgruntledPorcupine DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:

What? I always found Gentle Giant to be a really simple band. Confused

I have to disagree. Their songs are short, but there is a lot of contrapuntal stuff that makes it really dense and complex, at least to my ear.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 29 2010 at 23:17
Originally posted by DisgruntledPorcupine DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:

What? I always found Gentle Giant to be a really simple band. Confused
What? People are always talking about how complex they are, and while I find them too poppy (in the sense of song structure and repetition) and twee, they're not simple at all for a rock band.
Originally posted by rogerthat rogerthat wrote:

 As for Porcupine Tree,  I am not familiar with much of their psychedelic phase, but I wouldn't call any of the albums from Lightbulb Sun to Incident prog. It may be 'progressive' in relation to the current mainstream trends, that is a different concept altogether.  
I tend to agree, but you probably don't want to have that argument here. ;-)


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 29 2010 at 23:19
Maybe DP can only hear the top melody, or something
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 29 2010 at 23:40
Originally posted by Captain Clutch Captain Clutch wrote:

Maybe DP can only hear the top melody, or something
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Originally posted by rogerthat rogerthat wrote:

 As for Porcupine Tree,  I am not familiar with much of their psychedelic phase, but I wouldn't call any of the albums from Lightbulb Sun to Incident prog. It may be 'progressive' in relation to the current mainstream trends, that is a different concept altogether.  
I tend to agree, but you probably don't want to have that argument here. ;-)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2010 at 00:21
If by "simple" you mean "minimalist composition," then there are many examples produced by various artists, either in their band format or as solo works.  

"I Advance Masked" was a marvelous little album by two old chums, RF and Andy Summers, who played all instruments & followed very basic rhythm patterns, producing some very pleasing music (IMHO).    

"Olias of Sunhillow" by Jon Anderson followed a very similar minimalist formula with pleasing results.  

As far as prog bands who adhere to minimalist composition, consider some of the more acoustic groups, many of which border on folk & country.   I once heard some acoustic Welsh folk music that, for all the world, reminded me a great deal of Yes!  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2010 at 00:31
Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:


I don't understand the references to Marillion, who I think are incredibly complex in their music, certainly in the Hogarth era.


Uh, wut?

The band has never been very complex. Maybe they play and odd time here or the, and have a simple polyrhythm every now and then, but really no. What tracks are you thinking are "incredibly complex"?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2010 at 02:55
Originally posted by UndercoverBoy UndercoverBoy wrote:

Originally posted by CinemaZebra CinemaZebra wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

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