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J-Man 
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 Topic: '66 - '70 Zappa Albums (except Hot Rats)
Posted: August 02 2010 at 20:29 |
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I'm Only In It For The Money
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jammun
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Posted: August 02 2010 at 20:27 |
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My copy of Greasy Love Songs (aka original Ruben) should arrive tomorrow. I can't wait to hear it, if it has even half the greasy ambience of the original LP.
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Can you tell me where we're headin'?
Lincoln County Road or Armageddon.
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Anthony H.
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Posted: July 29 2010 at 17:09 |
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PA doesn't have this cover for the album. This is the actual cover, and it's f**king brilliant. Instead, PA has the much-less amazing gatefold sleeve cover.
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Zargus
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Posted: July 29 2010 at 16:28 |
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Mr Greeen Genes
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Posted: July 29 2010 at 14:48 |
unclemeat69 wrote:
That one is obvious of course: Uncle Meat (without all the dialogue and that crap italian song)
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Those are bonus tracks though. They are pretty bad...
Anyway, like always, I went with my favorite Zappa album... Uncle Meat
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himtroy
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Posted: July 29 2010 at 13:20 |
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From this list its Weasels Ripped my Flesh, followed by Chunga, followed by Absolutely Free, followed by Freak Out. But they're all great albums!
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Which of you to gain me, tell, will risk uncertain pains of hell?
I will not forgive you if you will not take the chance.
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questionsneverknown
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Posted: July 29 2010 at 11:31 |
We're Only in it For the Money gets the vote because it was the one that turned me on to the man. I got into Weasels right around the same time. I don't listen to the 60s stuff as much these days, definitely preferring a lot of the early 70s output, but I still find it all quite grand. Has anybody here heard the special edition of Money and Lumpy that the Zappa estate put out last year?
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The damage that we do is just so powerfully strong we call it love
The damage that we do just goes on and on and on but not long enough.
--Robyn Hitchcock
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Zombywoof
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Posted: July 29 2010 at 00:33 |
jammun wrote:
Finnforest wrote:
Question for the Zappa freaks: If I love Freak Out.....is it pretty much a slam dunk to get Reuben? I've read a bit, is it close to the style of Freak Out? |
Nothing at all like Freak Out. Many of the songs are the same ones (Anyway the Wind Blows, How Could I Be Such a Fool, You Didn't Try To Call Me, etc.) but they are all done in a '50's doo-wop style. Under no circumstances get the 'official' Ruben CD! FZ rerecorded all the bass/drum tracks and ruined it. You can't imagine how bad it is, really, but let's just say it destroyed the album. Someone 'round here mentioned the original mix is available from the FZ site (I think the album's called Greasy Love Songs or some such). That's the version you'd want to get. I have not heard it so do not know how it compares to the LP. But again no relation to Freak Out, although the LP is a pretty good album in its own right, provided you enjoy doo-wop, which Ray Collins does quite well (that's where he started before Zappa got hold of him). This is the one: Okay, another edit. I just ordered the damned thing. I'll let you know how it is in terms of being true to the original. |
I haven't heard the 80's Ruben or the Vinyl, but Greasy Love Songs has fantastic sound quality! I voted for Uncle Meat, by the way...though I love We're Only In It For The Money almost as much.
Edited by Zombywoof - July 29 2010 at 00:34
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jammun
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Posted: July 28 2010 at 21:29 |
Finnforest wrote:
Question for the Zappa freaks: If I love Freak Out.....is it pretty much a slam dunk to get Reuben? I've read a bit, is it close to the style of Freak Out? |
Nothing at all like Freak Out. Many of the songs are the same ones (Anyway the Wind Blows, How Could I Be Such a Fool, You Didn't Try To Call Me, etc.) but they are all done in a '50's doo-wop style.
Under no circumstances get the 'official' Ruben CD! FZ rerecorded all the bass/drum tracks and ruined it. You can't imagine how bad it is, really, but let's just say it destroyed the album. Someone 'round here mentioned the original mix is available from the FZ site (I think the album's called Greasy Love Songs or some such). That's the version you'd want to get. I have not heard it so do not know how it compares to the LP. But again no relation to Freak Out, although the LP is a pretty good album in its own right, provided you enjoy doo-wop, which Ray Collins does quite well (that's where he started before Zappa got hold of him).
This is the one:
Okay, another edit. I just ordered the damned thing. I'll let you know how it is in terms of being true to the original.
Edited by jammun - July 28 2010 at 22:01
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Can you tell me where we're headin'?
Lincoln County Road or Armageddon.
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Finnforest
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Posted: July 28 2010 at 21:15 |
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Question for the Zappa freaks: If I love Freak Out.....is it pretty much a slam dunk to get Reuben? I've read a bit, is it close to the style of Freak Out?
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jammun
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Posted: July 28 2010 at 21:12 |
Another vote for WOIIFTM. It's hard to choose just one. Even the dreaded Flo&Eddie contaminated Chunga's has Sharleena to recommend it. Which is of course the problem. Freakin' all of these albums have timeless music in their grooves (yes, it was grooves at the time). These albums are the soundtrack of my youth (well from about 13-17 years old). Even in my senescense, I can probably recite the lyrics, hum the melodies, make the noises for all of these albums.
Suzy Creamcheese, the Duke of Prunes, Ronny & Kenny and their numies and green fire, Cheap Thrills, sharkskin suits on the dog waste, Electric Aunt Jemima, Cruising for Burgers, the Pep Boys, brodie knobs and spinners, fuzzy dice, white port and lemon juice, I think you're probably out to lunch. Good lord, somebody help me! What a f**king great little world FZ created during these years!
The band maybe was not the best. But Ray Collins was a fine vocalist, Roy Estrada a very good bass player. Don Preston and Ruth Underwood uber competent. Just sit down and try to play their parts on the Uncle Meat Theme. Ian Underwood, well ya'll know that story.
Incredible era for Zappa, and he was just getting started.
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Can you tell me where we're headin'?
Lincoln County Road or Armageddon.
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Posted: July 28 2010 at 20:00 |
The only one I'm not that familiar with is Weasels
But in this list Chunga's Revenge is where the music wins over the humour.... and that's definitely what gets me.
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
rather than un-sheath our sword
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The Quiet One
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Posted: July 28 2010 at 19:25 |
Ronnie Pilgrim wrote:
Aaaahhhhhh Freak Out! |
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Posted: July 28 2010 at 19:17 |
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Aaaahhhhhh Freak Out!
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Posted: July 28 2010 at 17:19 |
CinemaZebra wrote:
Freak Out, even if Hot Rats was here.
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Yup. Me too.
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Posted: July 28 2010 at 17:09 |
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Anthony H.
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Posted: July 28 2010 at 16:48 |
The Quiet One wrote:
Man With Hat wrote:
Weasels Ripped My Flesh. |
I'll call 911!! |
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The Quiet One
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Posted: July 28 2010 at 15:56 |
Man With Hat wrote:
Weasels Ripped My Flesh. |
I'll call 911!!
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Catcher10
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Posted: July 28 2010 at 15:42 |
Slartibartfast wrote:
Catcher10 wrote:
I voted Absolutely Free.......two reasons
1. It had no vote yet
2. Only way I would listen to any Zappa is if it were "Absolutely Free"
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Next time you're in a record store and you see one grab it and run out the door.
By the way, with regards to Burnt Weenie Sandwich, I consider it more of a burnt bread weenie sandwich. 
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I think that's called a five finger discount....but then if I did that the following might happen..
I might get Chungas Revenge and the Weasles Ripped My Face and then turned it into Lumpy Gravy right before Uncle Meats eyes, as he ate his Burnt Weenie Sandwhich one hour before his Crusing with Ruben & The Jets...so then he Freaks Out! And since We're Only In It for the Money...we take all the albums for Absolutely Free....
What the krapp!!!! not sure where that all came from 
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unclemeat69
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Posted: July 28 2010 at 15:37 |
Anthony H. wrote:
unclemeat69 wrote:
That one is obvious of course: Uncle Meat (without all the dialogue and that crap italian song)
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Both of those tracks weren't on the original pressing of the album. So I don't even count them as part of it.
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With those tracks it probably wouldn't have been my favorite.
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Follow your bliss
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