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Certif1ed 
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 Posted: October 31 2004 at 13:11 |
punk 2  (p ngk)
n.
1. Dry decayed wood, used as tinder.
2. Any of various substances that smolder when ignited, used to light fireworks.
3. Chinese incense.
adj. Slang
1. Of poor quality; worthless.
2. Weak in spirits or health.
[Probably of eastern Algonquian origin.] |
...also refers to a prostitute, in earlier English times, and to a branch of British popular music in the 1970s. Also incorrectly applied to a branch of music in the United States from the 1990s onward that wants to be punk but simply lacks the attitude.
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asuma
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Posted: October 31 2004 at 13:02 |
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well, whenever someone says something to me like
"dude, why do you hang out with all those punk
kids..that's so gay"
well i just say. "yup, we're all gay"
it's true. look up punk in the dictionary.
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*Remember all advice given by Asuma is for entertainment purposes only. Asuma is not a licensed medical doctor, psychologist, or counselor and he does not play one on TV.*
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diddy
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Posted: October 31 2004 at 11:11 |
 Peter Rideout wrote:
Certif1ed wrote:
I'm not sure if it's just me that thinks this, but it looks for all the world like there are some xenophobic people mistaking the term "gay" for some kind of insult...
Surely art is not intrinsically of one sexual persuasion or another???
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Cert, I regret to inform you that, like it or not (I certainly DON'T!) North American youth (generally via California and the "entertainment" industry) have now made the term gay synomynous with "stupid" or "lame." 
Thus, when I taught teens a couple of years ago, they would condemn a book, which was devoid of homosexual themes or characters, but which they didn't like (they hated being made to read, or even think!), as "gay."   (Must have made any gay youth in the room feel very comfortable and welcome, no?) I didn't tolerate the use of the word as an insult in my class, BTW, but it has now become one of their favourite and most hurtful insults for one another, and teens who are discovering their non-hetero orientation are often driven to depression and suicide by a youth culture that is nortoriously homophobic. There seems to be somewhat less racial predjudice than in my day, but the acceptance of gays really seems to have diminished with the advent of AIDS (and the erroneous perception of it as a homosexual disease), and the burgeoning power of the Christian (Republican) right in the U.S.
Sad, but true....
Perhaps I thus shouldn't have taken part in this potentially hurtful poll (ironically started by a gay), but the Village People were shameless flamers, weren't they? I HATED disco -- still do -- brainless twaddle!
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You're totally right...Being part of the so called youth culture (mainly because of the age) I can affirm such a development. The term "gay", "schwul" in germany, is often used as an insult and wickedly, it became a standard expression for things or activities people simply dislike. And it's no artless exeption, it's said over and over again...it became standard, you could almost add it to the dictionary 
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If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear...
George Orwell
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gdub411
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Posted: October 31 2004 at 11:05 |
Peter Rideout wrote:
Certif1ed wrote:
I'm not sure if it's just me that thinks this, but it looks for all the world like there are some xenophobic people mistaking the term "gay" for some kind of insult...
Surely art is not intrinsically of one sexual persuasion or another???
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Cert, I regret to inform you that, like it or not (I certainly DON'T!) North American youth (generally via California and the "entertainment" industry) have now made the term gay synomynous with "stupid" or "lame."
Thus, when I taught teens a couple of years ago, they would condemn a book, which was devoid of homosexual themes or characters, but which they didn't like (they hated being made to read, or even think!), as "gay." (Must have made any gay youth in the room feel very comfortable and welcome, no?) I didn't tolerate the use of the word as an insult in my class, BTW, but it has now become one of their favourite and most hurtful insults for one another, and teens who are discovering their non-hetero orientation are often driven to depression and suicide by a youth culture that is nortoriously homophobic. There seems to be somewhat less racial predjudice than in my day, but the acceptance of gays really seems to have diminished with the advent of AIDS (and the erroneous perception of it as a homosexual disease), and the burgeoning power of the Christian (Republican) right in the U.S.
Sad, but true....
Perhaps I thus shouldn't have taken part in this potentially hurtful poll (ironically started by a gay), but the Village People were shameless flamers, weren't they? I HATED disco -- still do -- brainless twaddle!
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I agree completely with you guys. My daughter throws that word around with anything she doesn't like. It is always a bit painful to hear her comments.
In Reed Lovers case...I don't think he meant any harm., which by the way...he started this thread and not me...and Reed Lover isn't gay just to clear things up.
Panoramic=Gdub
Panoramic's Gay=Reed Lover
for those who didn't know
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Peter
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Posted: October 31 2004 at 10:47 |
Certif1ed wrote:
I'm not sure if it's just me that thinks this, but it looks for all the world like there are some xenophobic people mistaking the term "gay" for some kind of insult...
Surely art is not intrinsically of one sexual persuasion or another???
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Cert, I regret to inform you that, like it or not (I certainly DON'T!) North American youth (generally via California and the "entertainment" industry -- thus likely headed your way) have now made the term gay synomynous with "stupid" or "lame."
Thus, when I taught teens a couple of years ago, they would condemn a book, which was devoid of homosexual themes or characters, but which they didn't like (they hated being made to read, or even think!), as "gay." (Must have made any gay youth in the room feel very comfortable and welcome, no?) I didn't tolerate the use of the word as an insult in my class, BTW, but it has now become one of their favourite and most hurtful insults for one another, and teens who are discovering their non-hetero orientation are often driven to depression and suicide by a youth culture that is nortoriously homophobic. There seems to be somewhat less racial predjudice than in my day, but the acceptance of gays really seems to have diminished with the advent of AIDS (and the erroneous perception of it as a homosexual disease), and the burgeoning power of the Christian (Republican) right in the U.S.
Sad, but true....
Perhaps I thus shouldn't have taken part in this potentially hurtful poll, but the Village People were shameless flamers, weren't they? I HATED disco -- still do -- brainless twaddle!
Of course I like Bowie and Lou Reed and even some early Elton John just fine -- it's what I perceive as lame and contrived that I really dislike. I can't listen to Abba without making fun of them -- other seemingly sane people love them.
Edited by Peter Rideout
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock?
Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!'
He chortled in his joy.
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gdub411
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Posted: October 31 2004 at 10:30 |
emdiar wrote:
German metal act Accept. The biggest bunch of shirtliftin' battyboiyz ever to tread on a fuzzzzzbox! |
Agreed...they were pretty cheesy! How about that synchronized guitar playing did.....god they were awful!!
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emdiar
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Posted: October 31 2004 at 10:17 |
German metal act Accept. The biggest bunch of shirtliftin' battyboiyz ever to tread on a fuzzzzzbox!
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Perception is truth, ergo opinion is fact.
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Certif1ed
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Posted: October 31 2004 at 10:06 |
I still don't understand why "worse" and "gayer" and "crap" seem to be interchangeable. That seems very wrong and discriminatory to me.
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dropForge
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Posted: October 31 2004 at 01:15 |
| is there any gayer form of music than disco? |
I didn't think there was, until I heard hardcore rap (the truly offensive kind). I didn't think there might be anything worse than that, and then I heard death/black metal. I can't believe people listen to that garbage.
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Peter
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Posted: October 31 2004 at 00:02 |
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock?
Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!'
He chortled in his joy.
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: October 30 2004 at 21:15 |
is there any gayer form of music than disco?  |
I agree, but a picture speaks more than 1,000 words:
Macho Men
Iván
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JrKASperov
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Posted: October 30 2004 at 17:41 |
is there any gayer form of music than disco?
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Epic.
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James Lee
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Posted: October 30 2004 at 17:25 |
^ if Art itself has an orientation, it's more likely to be gay than straight 
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Certif1ed
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Posted: October 30 2004 at 17:17 |
I'm not sure if it's just me that thinks this, but it looks for all the world like there are some xenophobic people mistaking the term "gay" for some kind of insult...
Surely art is not intrinsically of one sexual persuasion or another???
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gdub411
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Posted: October 30 2004 at 03:13 |
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I'm not gay...just heterosexually challenged!
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James Lee
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Posted: October 30 2004 at 02:48 |
What are you saying...there is some sort of homosexual innuendo found in Queen's material? Why, that's completely preposterous. Freddie just happened to be one of those macho men that could get away with a bushy mustache and tight colorful tank-top. And he contracted HIV the same way as Magic Johnson (or any manly man)...by nailing lots of skanky whores.
And David Bowie and Mick Jagger were just reading the bible together in bed with the lights off. From what I hear, it happened all the time in those days.
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tuxon
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Posted: October 29 2004 at 22:19 |
Queen
The fairy feller's masterstroke. (Queen II)
(what a query fellow)
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I'm always almost unlucky _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Id5ZcnjXSZaSMFMC Id5LM2q2jfqz3YxT
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greenback
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Posted: October 29 2004 at 21:47 |
Once PGA's John Daly was participating to a long drive contest with amateur big hitters: in the crowd, a man shouted to him if he turned gay because Daly was outdriven by most of the competitors. Daly answered: "Why, are you gay?"
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: October 29 2004 at 21:43 |
I don't know why this obsession about gay forms of art, does anyone wants to say something about him or her.
Well.......I will vote for anything Gdub411 likes
Iván
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gdub411
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Posted: October 29 2004 at 20:53 |
Hey...Does this belong on Main Discussions? Maybe they should make a whole new format called Gay Discussions
I of course picked anything I listen to. Gay is a good thing...right?
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I (a confirmed prog fan, of course) once had to suffer through that song being played over and over again by a girl that I was briefly seeing. 
Yikes! 