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Points: 7826 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 18 2010 at 13:53
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

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The only negative effect I have seen is when people use [url] tags and the address is censored, other than that I don't mind whether it stays or goes.


My exact feeling about it.


Same... the difference between f u c k and f**k isn't much at all, but it can really mess up some URL's.

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Originally posted by D**n D**n wrote:

Originally posted by A rs* ... someone didn't think that through A rs* ... someone didn't think that through wrote:

Originally posted by D**n D**n wrote:

which just leaves swearing as harmless verbal punctuation, which we all do in our everyday lives.

Not I; I'm still scared of swearing around my mother. Stern SmileLOL

Me too - and I've never met your mother. Tongue

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Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

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The only negative effect I have seen is when people use [url] tags and the address is censored, other than that I don't mind whether it stays or goes.


My exact feeling about it.


I agree with this as well.
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Originally posted by A rs* ... someone didn't think that through A rs* ... someone didn't think that through wrote:

Originally posted by D**n D**n wrote:

which just leaves swearing as harmless verbal punctuation, which we all do in our everyday lives.

Not I; I'm still scared of swearing around my mother. Stern SmileLOL

Me too - and I've never met your mother. Tongue
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Originally posted by A Person A Person wrote:



The only negative effect I have seen is when people use [url] tags and the address is censored, other than that I don't mind whether it stays or goes.


My exact feeling about it.
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Originally posted by D**n D**n wrote:

which just leaves swearing as harmless verbal punctuation, which we all do in our everyday lives.

Not I; I'm still scared of swearing around my mother. Stern SmileLOL

The only negative effect I have seen is when people use [url] tags and the address is censored, other than that I don't mind whether it stays or goes.
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Originally posted by J-Man J-Man wrote:

I had a suggestion about this on MMA, and words like sh*t, f**k, and c**t are now allowed on Max's other website. Here was my post there... I have the same feelings about curse words in PA.
 
Originally posted by posted by Jeff in another forum, far, far away, and badly quoted by him, so here's the tidy-up version posted by Jeff in another forum, far, far away, and badly quoted by him, so here's the tidy-up version wrote:

I started this thread to discuss the censorship of a few key words on MMA, and why I am fully opposed to this. First of all, many metal bands on MMA (such as f**k The Facts, c**tshredder, Anal c**t, etc...) are very difficult to discuss with this type of censorship, and impossible to URL. For example, if I were to give you this URL link: http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/anal-c**t.aspx, it does not work because of the censorship on the forums.

I am a person who always supports good behavior and forum etiquette, but I really doubt that censoring out a letter or two in a profane post will do anything. Is saying f*ck really different from saying the actual thing? I'm not promoting bad behavior, but I think that censoring the word doesn't change the meaning of it.

That's all... feel free to discuss... Smile

-Jeff

 
I made the same point  in the first week of the MMA (http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=66&PID=512#512) and I'm pleased to see that it has been implemented. Autocensoring Metal band names, biographies and discographies was just plain silly (and I said so), also getting Metalheads to stop swearing is like trying to make water flow up hill - it can be done but requires a lot of energy and constant pressure.
 
I'm against the use of the Autocensor here and have said so (badly I admit) in a couple of threads in the CZ (one may have been in the SCZ). Turning off the Autocensor will not change the rules - it would still be against forum rules to use profanity  - turning it off means that people would have to censor their own posts or risk ejection from the site - and that's fCensoredking fine by me. If people don't have the wit and vocabulary to post without swearing then the MMA is two doors down on the left - just follow your nose and don't let the door bang you on your butt as you leave here.
 
So, are you really asking for a change in the rules to permit swearing? I'm in favour of that too, I think it is possible to swear and remain polite; the "no vulgarity, no snipping, no bigotry, no offensive behaviour" rules would have to remain in my opinion, which just leaves swearing as harmless verbal punctuation, which we all do in our everyday lives.
 
 
 
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I'm not really speaking for myself here, just playing devil's advocate, but if people on this forum want to be 'free' from vulgarity isn't lack of censorship a loss of freedom for them. So called 'free speech' is a misnomer, freedom is not a one way street and is always a compromise between differing views.

Anyway, the rules on speech were established on this site before any of us joined and we all agreed to bide by those rules as part of our invitation to join the site.
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As far as I'm concerned, a band called An*l C*nt should be censored from everywhere.
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I had a suggestion about this on MMA, and words like sh*t, f**k, and c**t are now allowed on Max's other website. Here was my post there... I have the same feelings about curse words in PA.
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I started this thread to discuss the censorship of a few key words on MMA, and why I am fully opposed to this. First of all, many metal bands on MMA (such as f**k The Facts, c**tshredder, Anal c**t, etc...) are very difficult to discuss with this type of censorship, and impossible to URL. For example, if I were to give you this URL link: http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/anal-c**t.aspx, it does not work because of the censorship on the forums.

I am a person who always supports good behavior and forum etiquette, but I really doubt that censoring out a letter or two in a profane post will do anything. Is saying f*ck really different from saying the actual thing? I'm not promoting bad behavior, but I think that censoring the word doesn't change the meaning of it.

That's all... feel free to discuss... Smile

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Originally posted by CyberDiablo CyberDiablo wrote:

Better swear in a language that nobody in the forum knows.
What? And you think we can't translate those langages? Even Google can translate Urdu.
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    Points: 20030     		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 18 2010 at 08:01
    Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

    I was wondering how long it would take for someone to mention a certain northern seaside town

    What's Blackpool got to do with it?
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    Points: 14693     		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 18 2010 at 07:19
    I was wondering how long it would take for someone to mention a certain northern seaside town

    Speaking as an admin/moderator though, the auto-censor saves me a lot of f**king work

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    Points: 20030     		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 18 2010 at 06:58
    Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

    Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

    sh*t yeah we need a swear censor, are you f**king kidding?

    though it is a shame about Pent**ter .. ah well


    Yes, I've been meaning to fixt the t**tting Sweetwater, Pentwater, Pocketwatch thing for ages. Done now.
     
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    ^ Or read Harry Potter and change all the D's to G's
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    Points: 10841     		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 18 2010 at 05:53
    Oh, you know, you can say horrible and disguting things without using any profanity or "dirty" word. All of the worst sexual perversions can be named with a "scientifical" term - and it won't be filtered by any censoring system if the said system is only calibred for profanities and swearing.

    No, I won't make any example.

    It reminds a funny literary game: type any text, "censor" some words, hop! It becomes a hidden obscenity.
    Example: Shakespeare, Hamlet:
    To be, or not to be: that is the question:
    Whether 'tis nobler in the m*** to su****
    The slings and a***** of outrageous f******,
    Or to take t*** against a sea of t*******.

    But I think we could find better examples.
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    Points: 37575     		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 18 2010 at 04:52
    Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

    sh*t yeah we need a swear censor, are you f**king kidding?

    though it is a shame about Pent**ter .. ah well


    Yes, I've been meaning to fixt the t**tting Sweetwater, Pentwater, Pocketwatch thing for ages. Done now.
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    You could always swear in Kobaian.
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