Michael Moore

Epignosis wrote: UndercoverBoy wrote: Epignosis wrote: UndercoverBoy wrote: Nope, play Earthbound.  You'll learn that bats and frying pans can defend yourself just fine, and that guns are actually the weakest weapons.  Also, only the smart kid gets to use the guns, not just any crazy psychopathic murderer. What in the hell are you talking about boy?  I thought we were talking about video games. We are. Manly video games.  With guns.  What the f**k's a frying pan, anyway?

Edited by UndercoverBoy - June 02 2010 at 16:16

Okay, just be glad I restrained from PSI Starstorming this thread.

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JJLehto wrote: Agree with him? Meh....more or less. However, I don't really know his actual views. After all, those movies are clearly biased. I liked them, and agree I generally agree with him, but those movies may be some of the most biased pieces of work I've ever seen. But yeah, more I less I do.

Care to explain why biased in Mike's case is a bad thing?  Fox News is extremely biased and they claim to be fair and balanced.  Mike is biased but makes no claims to be otherwise.  It's one of those cases where there is right and wrong and giving equal time or pretending that wrong is OK is just stupid.

I voted "some of the time" because of what I've heard about Bowling For Columbine. I didn't want to see it, though... Now shoot me 

Slartibartfast wrote: JJLehto wrote: Agree with him? Meh....more or less. However, I don't really know his actual views. After all, those movies are clearly biased. I liked them, and agree I generally agree with him, but those movies may be some of the most biased pieces of work I've ever seen. But yeah, more I less I do. Care to explain why biased in Mike's case is a bad thing?  Fox News is extremely biased and they claim to be fair and balanced.  Mike is biased but makes no claims to be otherwise.  It's one of those cases where there is right and wrong and giving equal time or pretending that wrong is OK is just stupid.

I don't have a problem with it, and as you said he never did claim to be fair. Don't even get me started on FOX....  but you know me, just have to always throw it out there.
Although there are obviously ALOT of people that may not be....sharp enough, to pick up on it and just believe him blindly. But I guess that happens with a lot of things.


Edited by JJLehto - June 03 2010 at 14:56

I don't think that there is anything wrong with being biased in a documentary that is meant to persuade.    Of course, you only make your argument stronger by displaying the opposite side's claims and challenging them.  Media that's meant to inform, that's a different story.

I'm late on this thread, but I have a couple of things to say about it.
1) I've only seen one Michael Moore film (Roger and Me) and I thought it was the stupidest thing ever. Apparently Moore thinks that a profit making industry is suppose to continue to operate plants that are losing money because the people who work there refuse to move out of their hometown and find other jobs. I wonder how he would respond to demands that he produce movies that lose money in order to help feed the poor cameramen and gaffers.

2) The Bible is the most influential document in Western Civilization. No education is remotely complete without knowing about it. Obviously it should not be taught as gospel in public schools, but basic Biblical literacy is essential to every American, Brit, Spaniard, Italian, Frenchman and German (plus some others I'm leaving out.)

thellama73 wrote: Apparently Moore thinks that a profit making industry is suppose to continue to operate plants that are losing money because the people who work there refuse to move out of their hometown and find other jobs.

^So in your mind, companies should deliberately lose money, otherwise they're screwing over the workers?