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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 29 2010 at 21:29
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

Originally posted by CinemaZebra CinemaZebra wrote:

Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

Originally posted by CinemaZebra CinemaZebra wrote:

The one who didn't steal any riffs.
As for Page's "stealing", he and Zeppelin contributed to the blues more than they stole from it.
I don't see how that justifies it. If it weren't for Page's stealing, Led Zeppelin wouldn't even get the opportunity to "contribute" to the blues in the first place.


They have nothing to justify: the very basis of all bluesrock is the black artists in the US of the 40s and 50s, and all the important bluesrock/heavy blues artists took from that legacy - Cream, Blue Cheer, Santana, the Stones, Johnny Winter, the Doors, Sabbath, you name it, and most of the riffs, phrasing and lyrical relation are directly traceable to the electric Blues of the 20th century.  I'm not just talking influence either, but direct usage of material that was often unknown to most or was no longer available.  Further, Zeppelin weren't the only ones to not properly credit artists, they just were too blatant and successful for it to slip by. 







And the trade mark sound that he always archive in live concerts, and the use of theramin.




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 29 2010 at 23:12
Originally posted by Alberto Muñoz Alberto Muñoz wrote:

Originally posted by Captain Clutch Captain Clutch wrote:

Originally posted by rogerthat rogerthat wrote:

Originally posted by Captain Clutch Captain Clutch wrote:

Each of them was the best man for the job they did, but let's face it guys: Led Zep is a band that is far more based on the guitar, and therefore Page plays a more significant role in his band


Not really, it's based far more on distorted guitar, is what I would say.  Yes, keyboards have very little role to play in Led Zep compared to Floyd, but Gilmour was still the most important link in Floyd and Floyd were mainly a guitar based band too.  Anyway, my vote goes to Gilmour.  I like Page the arranger but Page the guitarist, both riffs and solos wise, doesn't do much for me, would rather Iommi and Blackmore respectively.  I am not nearly as fond of the Comfortably Numb solo as many Floyd fans seem to be. I prefer his output from Meddle through to Dark Side.


a) you're incorrect about Floyd being mainly a guitar-based band.  This was only true on Their first 2 albums and on The Wall (to a lesser extent)

b) David Gilmore did barely any song writing for Floyd, and Jimmy Page wrote EVERYTHING for Zep

Gilmore's role is more subtle and minimalist.
Nobody could possibly replace what Page did for LZ




You referring to David Gilmore of AkaMoon?LOL



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2010 at 00:30
Originally posted by Captain Clutch Captain Clutch wrote:


a) you're incorrect about Floyd being mainly a guitar-based band.  This was only true on Their first 2 albums and on The Wall (to a lesser extent)


Come on Wish you were here is guitar based too, I mean 40% of the album is guitar solo and 20% is awesome 12 -string acoustic strumming...

And what about animals, the song Dog contain 5 solos and an awesome chord pattern and the Sheep ending riff is magic...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2010 at 02:13
I prefer David Gilmore, just because. Thank you

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 03 2010 at 08:33
I find amazing that 1 person on 3 is so rock-oriented. Jimmy Page has contributed to give Metal a birth and was a great guitarist, but I don't see how he can compared to Sir David. Neither the solo on Stairway to Heaven can compete with Comfortably numb. This doesn't mean that I wouldn't sell a kidney to be able to play like Jimmy...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 03 2010 at 08:36
Wow!....There are so many viewpoints from a large group of people on P.A.    All different age groups of music fans, musicians and those who write reviews. It's amazing and challenging!    I suppose that I am pure wax museum mentality because I enjoyed Jimmy Page with the Yardbirds more then Zep. However, I really love Jimmy Page's guitar work on the Zeppelin debut and 3 and 4. 'The Battle Of Evermore" is really diverse and truly interesting on Page's behalf.

There are so many outstanding guitarists from the 60's and 70's like Johnny Winter, Mike Bloomfield, Peter Green etc, and I rarely hear mention of their levels or I should say their true capabilities. Paul Kossoff from Free was a bit like Gilmour and Page combining a style of both and being from that British Blues Boom era, I consider him special.
 
My personal observation of Page is the fact that he played various Les Paul lines.....and long extensive technical lines which Page adapted to the writing style of Zep. Page also tutored Jeff Beck and Beck played many of Les Paul's lines as well. On the technical side, Page was a little monster , playing notes starting at the 14th or 12th fret through a passage that led down to the 1st fret and back up again. He was really crazy!

David Gilmour plays some beautiful slide on Meddle. He is an atmospheric kind of player adding blues styles from the Mississippi Delta but, adapting it to that Space Rock Pink Floyd sound. He opens up a lot of chords ....having that B and E1st string open while producing a melodic atmosphere. His leads were always clean and inspiring.

But to compare Page and Gilmour to each other?.......I don't know but, it doesn't feel logical and the quarter placed in the vending machine does not work. Maybe Page and Beck would be more interesting to me?
During improv soloing from both on electric guitar........Dave Gilmour applies more string bending and while playing notes in a more slower fashion then Page, produces a unique sound and style. Page is sometimes all over the place producing the same effect as Gilmour at a fast pace.  The irony of course is the fact that Gilmour stated many timnes how he felt strange replacing Syd Barrett and how he felt uncomfortable even when Pink Floyd toured as a 5 piece.    But yet....it is David Gilmour who produces the most splendid versions of Syd Barrett's songs.......Astronomy Domine from Pulse...or his performance on DVD of "Dominoes".....Roger Waters doesn't seem to touch this material but, Gilmour gives it a re-birth with his beautiful guitar playing and his melodic singing voice to boot! 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 03 2010 at 08:42
Clap a great analysis. I would avoid comparing players with a so different approach to their instrument. We can't compare Page and Gilmour to Al di Meola, Andres Segovia or Stanley Jordan. We can appreciate their genres more or less, but a comparison can be done for example between Gilmour and Latimer, or Peter Green. Page can go with Blackmore and so on, I think.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 27 2011 at 08:27
Love gilmour's solo's with pink floyd so he has my vote, jimmy is genius too but not as much as david
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 27 2011 at 08:51
I chose David Gilmour for this poll. Page is faster, and is in his element in the studio; however, Page is quite sloppy playing live, and at times cannot reproduce the guitar sounds he created while recording. Meanwhile, Gilmour was brilliant each of the four times I saw Floyd in concert.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 27 2011 at 09:08
Gilmour's Best Solo Trumps Pages Best....... Dogs (My favorite or Confortably Numb) are both better that stairway to heaven or maybe when the levee breaks
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 27 2011 at 11:56
I like them both equally, but for the sake of the vote..
 
I vote Gilmore seeing i listen to Floyd more than Zep
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 27 2011 at 18:00
david gilmour all the way. i like jimmy page but he doesn't have the fell that Gilmore dose.  when ever i here Dave play i fell like im listening to the gods.  jimmy page doesn't have that effect on me he just doesn't have the fell Gilmore dose
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 27 2011 at 21:32
David Gilmour for me. I've never really got into jimmy page's style of playing, and, um, I really really have no penchant for his pelvic thrust thing...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 27 2011 at 21:39
 ^ well he was the ultimate low-riding guitar player, he had to thrust his pelvis so he could play the  thing  Smile

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 29 2011 at 14:26
David Gilmour has much better and classic solos. But then again, to some people George Harrison is better than David, so...LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 29 2011 at 19:00
love page but gilmour is my happiness
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 29 2011 at 20:33
Gilmour by far.

I've never really liked Page's style, he makes A LOT of mistakes.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 30 2011 at 14:27
Voted Gilmour, but it could've been page in another day.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 30 2011 at 17:17
I dont see why we have to choose. both are good in their own way. only thing id say is that jimmy page is more of a virtuoso.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2011 at 01:46
For me its Page, though its tough to vote against Gilmour on anything.
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