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    Posted: April 14 2010 at 12:03
Saw this article by reknown "Lost" expert Jeff Jensen and thought that there's a bunch of you proggers that would get a kick out of reading it.  The prog stuff's in the latter part of the piece.  Enjoy.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 14 2010 at 12:48
Originally posted by Chicapah Chicapah wrote:

Saw this article by reknown "Lost" expert Jeff Jensen and thought that there's a bunch of you proggers that would get a kick out of reading it.  The prog stuff's in the latter part of the piece.  Enjoy.


Lost is my favorite show of all time.

Fantastic read. Thumbs Up
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 14 2010 at 13:57
I can't read it because of the spolier alertUnhappy
 
I've been following it from the beginning and its nearly finished so bump this up again then pleaseSmile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 14 2010 at 16:34
They don't spoil beyond whats currently out........


Quite interesting to me.  I am quite a Lost fan
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 14 2010 at 16:55
Originally posted by himtroy himtroy wrote:

They don't spoil beyond whats currently out........

Only if you live in America.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 14 2010 at 18:40
I never thought of this before! I've never tried chucking on Tales From Topographic Oceans or Dark Side of the Moon while watching the latest headtrip on Lost. Maybe I should try it out next time its on! lol
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 15 2010 at 09:37
Hmmm.  I'm thinking "Suppers Ready" might be referring to a bucket of Mr. Cluck's chicken.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 15 2010 at 10:22
Originally posted by Chicapah Chicapah wrote:

Saw this article by reknown "Lost" expert Jeff Jensen and thought that there's a bunch of you proggers that would get a kick out of reading it.  The prog stuff's in the latter part of the piece.  Enjoy.
 
 
I think the author of that article has wayayayay too much time on his hands to come up with such doubtful shortcuts
let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
rather than un-sheath our sword
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 15 2010 at 15:10
Thanks for that Rollie that was really interesting. Now if i can convince my family that "Lost" and "Prog" have this connection i may not get teased as much about my music.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 15 2010 at 16:21
The pilot's synced to Dark Side of the Moon.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 15 2010 at 19:00
Originally posted by Silverbeard McStarr Silverbeard McStarr wrote:

The pilot's synced to Dark Side of the Moon.



What a revolting avatar....Confused
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 24 2010 at 06:52
Anybody watched the FINALE ? What do you think ?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 24 2010 at 08:53
last year I made a poll "which tv show is progressive" and Lost was high on the list!

the ranking:
1. The X Files
2. Lost
3. Arrested Development
4. Battlestar Galactica
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 24 2010 at 16:34
Originally posted by M@X M@X wrote:

Anybody watched the FINALE ? What do you think ?

I watched. I thought the first 2 hours or so were okay, but the last 30 minutes and the ending, IMHO, was lame and a bit of a cop out. It gave me the same feeling as the end of STTNG-they really didn't have a clear idea of how to end it and tie things together. It's too bad, I really have enjoyed the show.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 24 2010 at 16:59
^ I loved the last ep of ST: TNG. That show never really was a heavily arc-based series like Lost, it was more about the stand alone plots, and the characters. The final ep gave us a nice view of the crew past, present, and future, I was quite happy with it. I haven't seen the last Lost yet, but if it is a bit of a cop out, I will be disappointed, because Lost has always been an arc-heavy show with so many loose ends to tie up. So much for the Lost writers claiming to know where their story is going. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 24 2010 at 17:04
Originally posted by Kashmir75 Kashmir75 wrote:

^ I loved the last ep of ST: TNG. That show never really was a heavily arc-based series like Lost, it was more about the stand alone plots, and the characters. The final ep gave us a nice view of the crew past, present, and future, I was quite happy with it. I haven't seen the last Lost yet, but if it is a bit of a cop out, I will be disappointed, because Lost has always been an arc-heavy show with so many loose ends to tie up. So much for the Lost writers claiming to know where their story is going. 

ST:TNG finale just felt a bit hokie and the last bit with the captain sitting in at the card game........just didn't cut it for me and I was a huge fan. It's always interesting to see how differently we each see things! Cheers.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 24 2010 at 22:31

The blog linked to at the beginning of this thread is a bit dubious- tenuous links to everything ever aside, the authro admits to being continually in tears during the finale. Hmm.

 
Anyway, as for Lost, it is worth noting that the ending was changed. What was originally intended may never be known but it is known that during Abrams departure and the writing of Season 2, there was a scuffle over the ultimate direction of the show. I think it's clear from watching earlier episodes that Abrams had a harder, more science/plot driven mystery in mind, with less of the mystical and spiritual stuff that the show ended up including. It was rumoured that he was going somewhere dark and avant garde and the studio had cold feet about it and after his departure altered things to this sentimental, gloopy, quasi-religious ending.
 
SPOILER

The dead characters all return and everybody hugs each other and smiles in a church as they are bathed in white light, while the mystery of the island is (arguably) not resolved at all.
Some people are crying foul because it was explicitly stated that "they are not dead" but that is what the finale reveals to be the case.
I thought it was extremely poor really, the show set itself out as a mystery with answers to be deduced and discovered and in the end goes "Um, no it's all allegorical there are no answers, the journey is all". A cop-out and the "they're all dead but they're also not dead" thing is such a cheap attempt to have their cake and eat it too.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 24 2010 at 22:37
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 24 2010 at 22:56
finale complaints?  how about the Seinfeld closer, what a let down

sorry, off topic

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 25 2010 at 04:00
I thought the finale was going pretty strong but I'm pretty iffy about...
 
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WTF? The alternate timeline is purgatory? There's a lot of problems I have with this but I don't know where to start.
 
Time traveling islands that can cure diseases, smoke monsters, electromagnetic energy, magic kids who create things by imagining them, Hurley talking to dead people, egyptian statues, polar bears, people who don't age.
 
I can accept all of that, but not purgatory. LOL
 
I know the writers of this show have always employed a "everything including the kitchen sink" approach to writing but I didn't expect them to use such a corny cliche to end the series with. I'm very disappointed over that, it felt very cheap to me, they could get away with a lot of stuff because there was some mystery to it and you were never sure if all these things were scientific or supernatural. When the show did start getting more supernatural I went with it because it's fiction, but still this is way too smart a show to end with such religious sappiness.
 
Oh well, at least it wasn't all in the snow globe of some autistic kid amirite?
 
Not to mention there's a TON of questions these writers never got down to answering and they could have if they weren't always wasting time with red herring subplots and constantly building up mysterous new characters just to kill them off.
 
But yeah, I love this show so of course I'm gonna nitpick about the ending. I still thought the ending with Jack dying in the same place on the island where he started was really powerful.


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